Bitcoin and the market at large are still looking madly bullish in the short term. We've got some healthy unit-bias resistance at $50k but that's to be expected after moving up so quickly, being in such a desperate position just five weeks ago. If the supply-shock line holds we'll be forced above $50k within the next 3 days as I've mentioned before.
But I'm not here to talk about Bitcoin.
Today is Hive's day.
I was going to mention this yesterday, but I was very impressed that the entire market crashed 5%-10% and Hive only crashed like 1%. Given how much Hive has been removed from the exchanges in such a short period of time and considering the current price action: I believe we've forged a solid support near the 50 cent line. Pretty crazy considering we crashed all the way to 17 cents just two months ago.
Not only are Hive bulls waking up and pulling millions of coins off the exchanges, but also HBD trading above $1.05 creates a massive amount of deflationary pressure on the token, which we've been experiencing for two weeks now.
While HBD trades higher than $1.05, anyone on the network can convert Hive for $1.05 worth of HBD and turn a profit. In affect, we are taking the value being pumped into HBD and rerouting it to Hive while further stabilizing our stable-coin. This is pretty much a win/win for all parties concerned.
Is it just me... or is this kid way too old to be using training wheels?
Do you remember learning how to ride a bike? As a kid, it is a potentially frightening adventure. You don't want to fall off the bike and hurt yourself.
However, once you actually know how to ride the bike, the training wheels don't help us at all. In fact, they get in the way and greatly diminish the bike-riding experience. A bike with training wheels has horrible maneuverability and a low top-speed compared to one without. Once the kid has learned how to ride the bike, these things need to be taken off immediately.
I would have drowned in a pool after putting on water-wings if the lifeguard didn't fish me out. Too real.
Hive needs to remove the training-wheels.
It took us a while to get here and we've fallen many times, but it's time to take off the water wings: they aren't helping us anymore. They are holding us back and making us look like children. I'm talking, of course, about the 10% HBD haircut.
Hive has this mechanic in play to theoretically stem the bleeding of a brutal crypto-winter and prevent a "death-spiral". Ironically, I believe this mechanic could have contributed to the crypto winter and led us to suffer even more. When you take away the security of the stable coin users are going to exit the system entirely. We need to remove this automated rug-pull from the system ASAP.
The entire situation with the haircut is ass-backwards.
The founder of this technology simply decided that there would never be any reason to have more than 10% of our value stored at HBD. This is patently absurd and obviously false. Hive will has as much HBD as there is demand for HBD. Simple as that. You can't put a cap on a free market. This will become obvious when we hit the cap but HBD is still trading higher than $1.
In fact it is my opinion that we shouldn't even be trying to get Hive listings on exchanges anymore. At this point, all we need is HBD listings to appear on exchanges. The more we outsource our debt as liquidity the more stable this system will become. The higher demand becomes for our debt the more Hive moons from the conversions being made to create more HBD.
Conclusion
It is painfully obvious that we need to increase the HBD haircut to 20% or even 30% going forward. In fact, it's not ridiculous to assume that our HBD debt could easily exceed 100% of Hive's entire market cap and that would still be a stable scenario. Just look at the fractional reserve banking system. They've been operating for over a hundred years at 500% (20% collateral required making it x5 to regain 100% collateral).
Personally I would prefer to remove it entirely or put it to a community governance vote that could raise or lower the haircut depending on the will of the network. This is the obvious end-game solution. Until then we just look like this jackass stage-kid riding a toy motorcycle with training wheels.
Unfortunately, Hive users have experienced a huge amount of financial suffering over the last 4 years. The emotional cost of being a Hive perma-bull has been steep for everyone involved. Alas, I fear too many users on Hive are afraid to remove the training wheels because we might fall and get hurt again. You know what they say: nothing to fear but fear itself.
There's no sense in using crutches when you have two fully functional legs.
No one is going to build a retail business on Hive if HBD drops to 60 cents every couple of years. Take off the damn training wheels this is embarrassing, dad; my friends are watching.
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Reinventing the training wheel. That's a new one.
never dull
Was thinking maybe we should bend the brackets so they stick straight out from the axle, remove the wheels then attach rotary saw blades. Then for sure people will take us seriously.
There you go, making sense again. It all goes a bit over my head cause I haven’t studied these mechanics carefully or for a long time, but what’s the worst case scenario if we take off the training wheels? I’m assuming it’s the death spiral but how does that work?
As the price of Hive crashes, HBD being converted for Hive will continue to create more and more Hive for every dollar converted, pushing down the price further and creating more selling pressure.
However, I think this theory has proven that this is not exactly how it works in the real world. With the haircut in place, HBD breaks to the downside and everyone loses all confidence in it as a stable coin and continue to dump it even more.
It's also very clear that we need to turn the internal market's order book into an AMM yield farm, but that's another post.
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The reality is that if HBD is going to truly be used as a stablecoin as part of a wide scale payment system, we are going to need billions of them.
Since each one is backed by $1 worth of Hive, we can see what the market cap of Hive truly needs to be.
It all comes down to activity, something that is on the increase. Keep going at the pace we are for a couple years and it will become evident to everyone.
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Do we need a hardfork to change the 10%???
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yes
Good things are going to happen to Hive
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Ah I think I heard you were back.
Something about Mars returning.
Must have been in retrograde.
I'd second vote not having Hive on exchanges. More for the fact that exchanges are dying and people will soon be using DeFi and anonymous swaps instead.
Is the 10% haircut what funds the DAO or is that something different ?
No, the 10% haircut is a point at which the HBD->Hive conversion starts to break down (i.e. you no longer get a full $1 USD worth of Hive after HBD/Hive ratio rises above 10%). As @edicted mentions, a lot of large stakeholders (including myself) believe we should increase the allowed HBD/Hive ratio to allow more HBD to be printed. 20% or 30% seems like the most likely numbers for the next hardfork.
I have never really understood how personally profit from the conversions. I always do it exactly backwords. I have so little hive/hbd right now that it doesn't really matter but I really want to wrap my head about this.
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lol how long has your tagline been "I'm Really Steemed!"
Just noticed that.
since Justin Sun Day
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It's definitely an issue if it happens. I think a vote depending on the community is my choice.
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Read both articles and still trying to completely wrap my head around your argument, even though thanks to you I have a better understanding of how the conversions work.
That said, this statement I agreed with at first glance
It's not a viable solution until we upgrade the internal market into an AMM yield farm, but I think these liquidity issues will become much more obvious once DEFI matures a bit more.
I’m glad blocktrades is in on this. We should talk about this more in grand style
I agree 10% haircut threshold is a too strict rule in an expanding crypto economy. It needs revised.
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The 10% haircut isn't even training wheels. Inflation caused by HBD is infinite, even with a haircut. I have a massive post on HBD coming up.
Basically, not many people on hive understand it. I only know one who does (other than me).
So right now, the haircut is only giving drawbacks without really helping to cap the inflation, or maybe it does but definitely not as much as people think.
Aren't you worried though that an elastic hive circulating supply based on HBD supply and demand could cause problems in terms of RC distribution on hive and/or governance?
For example, Splinterlands needs RCs. They buy and stake hive. Suddenly HBD sells off and tons of HBD are converted to hive.
Now Splinterlands are left holding the bag and don't have enough RCs. Not cool
Read how this all have started with Toruk
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