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so you see the illogical standpoint of him now championing figures, that he knows are fake...?

Makes him look silly, and fake also

you get all your news about Trump from a hostile media.
recall how they reacted about him and Abe feeding fish in japan
do you think...
I mean..
is it possible..
work with me here..
what are the ODDS..
that they are lying about him?

I get none of my economic news from trump hostile media!-
honestly.
( you quoted the bbc for something! lol - they still report the white helmets as a western aid charity, ffs!)

x22 financial is reliable data reports - troll through those over the last 2/3 years.

My economic data/perspectives are from pro trump sites...if anything.(remaining objective, non political )

the abe fish feeding thing was hilarious - and just shows them up for the disingenuous pieces of crap they are.

My take on the economics 'con' side of things is objective.

perhaps.
but the numbers are bogus.
for Trump, Obama, Bush...all the way back to when the agency that reported them was implemented.
it's SPIN

intended to shape public opinion.
it has very little relationship to reality.

wait a minute.
did you just use the word 'logical'
in a political discussion?

lol - fair point!

I wonder (as I see it), your quite adamant 'defense' of trump has anything to do with 'old gits' sticking together? lol

I am pro trump also, remember ( but with reservations, and trying to see things clearly, with healthy doses of skepticism of the entire political circus)

Fooled too many times by these twats!

no - i used the word illogical - so that makes it more than OK!

results count.
and as much as the news media has lied to you about it.
the economy and life in general today, vs Oblunder's reign of error...is like night and day.
It's much better.
I don't really care about Trump (I hate, loathe, and dispise the hildebeast...I'd have voted for a cockroach instead of her)...but the economy took a turn for the better when he was elected (fact..) and hasn't looked back.