Here is a clip from yesterday's INLEO AMA that addresses the recent drama around Hive Witnesses. There's been other blog posts, threads, comments, private and public room chatter, DMs, etc. that have also been hashing this out.
Let's start from the beginning - about 10 days ago, we released a clip from one of the AMAs. In that clip, we essentially just talked about Hive Governance, the top 20 witnesses and our personal opinions on all of the above.
If you know me then you know I hate drama. It's stupid and unproductive. Frankly, a complete waste of time.
That being said, I have a tendency to get dragged into drama and so does LEO. We pay 0.0001% of our attention to it. That's probably why INLEO is so highly productive and innovates in ways for Hive that are unprecedented when it comes to building an interface for this blockchain. Our recent Dash integrations, partnerships, payments platform, inventing microblogging on Hive, etc. shall serve as plenty of references (if you'd like more, dig into what INLEO has done or better yet - go to https://inleo.io and explore the UI to find out all the features that exist on INLEO and don't exist anywhere else).
Let's say something very clear: again, I despise drama. Total waste of time...
With that out of the way, this clip from yesterday's AMA addresses the entire situation in 1 shot. I will not be replying to any more comments, private nor public chat rooms, posts, etc. about this specific overdramaticized situation.
Our Opinions
Mitch is my friend and we've been doing podcasts together for years. He doesn't work on INLEO, he just cares about LEO and Hive. I own millions of HIVE personally. He owns a lot of HIVE as well. We care about this blockchain. We want Hive to succeed.
Us merely bringing up the fact that there are some witnesses who could be doing more for Hive or who are no longer active on the blockchain in a capacity that is sufficient - in our opinion - is a good thing for Hive.
Afterall, do we want a blockchain where there is success and open discussion or do we want a blockchain with rent seekers who attack anyone who has any opinion that doesn't align with theirs?
Personally, I'd rather have the former.
This all said, I'm sure we're about to see some comments below that try to shoot down my opinion. Stating whatever they feel like stating.
Let them do it. They may even have some valid points. The LF witness - coincidentally? ironically? - went down right after this video was posted. I am working to get it back online ASAP. Will be less than a few days until we are caught up on blocks and back in action. I'm sure some will bring that up and it's a valid point. Does that invalidate my opinion on witnesses? I sure don't think so. But feel free to comment if you do think so.
What I will not do is apologize for bringing up this conversation about Witnesses.
I personally speak to Hivers every day - because I am hyperactive on my own product: INLEO & Threads.
I am bringing up a gripe that many people on Hive have when it comes to witnesses and some people (not all) who are in positions of power on this blockchain.
More Drama
Prepare for even more drama. I don't have a taste for it. If you leave a comment that is dramatic, I will ignore the drama and focus purely on the substance.
If you're a Hive witness, I invite you onto the INLEO Podcast at any time. I would love to do a one-on-one chat with you so that you can voice your opinions to the community. There are so many *awesome witnesses who do so much for this blockchain.
There are some who simply sit back witnessing blocks and stirring up drama. Frankly, becuase they have nothing better to do as they aren't actually adding value to the chain outside of just witnessing blocks.
I am of the OPINION - yes, it's still legal to have those - that a witness is about more than just witnessing blocks. I will hold this opinion firmly. Feel free to disagree with it but I know many other Hivers who hold the same opinion.
Conclusion
Watch the video for my thoughts in more detail.
I will TLDR; this with: we are on the same fucking team. Act like it.
Join the conversation on INLEO Threads: https://inleo.io. We're using the hashtag "#hive" to talk about Hive, witnesses, etc. on a regular basis. Let's put it all on-chain and have productive conversations to grow Hive together.
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I saw some of the 'drama' and it is not always productive. The witnesses ought to support each other rather than fight. If one goes down and is still getting votes then we need to do what is necessary to make it more robust.
Hivers do have a say in who gets the most blocks, but we know that the big players really decide. If more people actually used their votes (or proxies) then that might change. The data is all public, so they can make up their minds on who deserves a vote.
There's nothing wrong with healthy debate, but lets make it civilised. Yeah, I know it's a bunch of individuals with strong opinions. I'm here to get away from corporate social media and accept that it's the wild west. A little chaos can be good.
Peace and love!
Absolutely! We are all on the same team, looking for the same dream: to grow hive.
In the full episode of this clip, I invite any and all hive witnesses onto the Leo Pod to have a healthy, open discussion about how we can make Hive more successful (even invited Marky by name).
I have no bad blood with anyone and merely want to see the blockchain where I’ve spent 8+ years of my life and millions of dollars building a project (LEO) succeed. Transparent, open discussions will help us get there.
It’s very productive . I sold all my Hive and bought Bitcoin and Pepe.
Best decision I ever made
Yeah. Everyone is sick and tired of all the Drama (downvote wars) here on Hive.
I just try to ignore and mute all the Drama queens. And there are lots of them.
That's a good approach. And yeah, lots of drama queens and they make it quite obvious. Best to ignore and keep building
Yes. I am only allowed to earn Layer 2 coins of Hive thanks to #hashtags… all my Hive gets downvoted (by Top Hive Witnesses) to zero for over a year now… probably $10,000 worth now… but I convert all the little Hive crumbs into Pepe, Bitcoin, Dogecoin and others on Hive-Engine.com and made a fortune. So it has been a very good thing to get all my Hive downvoted. Yee haw ….
There is alot of drama and some whales are trying to be like father of hive who wants more entertainment. I don't think this is such a big topic that requires such drama and this could have been dealt better. There can be reasons for witnesses outages and instead of helping each other they're trying to point out.
Throwing dv unnecessarily is a power abuse and it is fun for some whales in hive. This is one of the biggest problem with hive that some whales do what they want to do blindly. Hope some day it changes.
I had everything downvoted for over a year now… no reasons. So I sold all my Hive and bought Bitcoin and Pepe
I’m up over 10,000 % ha ha ha ha ha ha
Fucking Losers
That's the best strategy and you did right. Because of such cat fights a lot of people don't trust hive for long term.
Indeed some fking loosers.
I encourage anyone that is getting everything downvoted to zero to sell all their Hive and buy Bitcoin, Pepe, Dogecoin and even Blurt !
And then go buy a new house and car.
Ha ha ha ..
Indeed, best to ignore and this is not the first time when LF is targeted. I still remember the DHF time.
The more you succeed, the more haters you accumulate
Very true. I have noticed for over 2 years now that Splinterlands inLeo Actifit and Ecency Content Creators and platforms have been targeted by Top Hive Witnesses. It’s brutal. I don’t understand why people stick around here …
True. A sad reality of life, Khal.
I think you guys are taking the right approach and I agree with you. In my opinion the Witnesses need to do more than just witness blocks because there are a lot of community members that could also just do that.
I think a lot of us want to see HIVE take its rightful place back on the first page of CoinGecko. It's legitimately the most well formed Web3 ecosystem.
Sometimes I feel like some people locked in there don't really care too much about it growing as long as they are getting a passive drip from it that is a lot compared to their efforts.
Grow the Pie is my thoughts too.
...that a witness is about more than just witnessing blocks.
That may or may not be true. Irrelevant. Witnessing blocks is the single most important thing witnesses do.. it's literally what you're being paid to do.. you sound like the janitor, who's upset he has to clean the shit stains out of the toilet..
The Hive ecosystem has so much lore and history now, that much of it will be inpenetrable to newer users. The people who have done the heavy lifting creating an iterating the various front-ends to Hive are understandbly going to have emotional investment in their work and projects.
Because Hive is still a relatively small and passionate community - narratives can become insular. Ingroup narratives can create a form of tunnel vision. Witnesses and frontends will compete for users, and to an extent control of available resource.
In a larger context 99.999...% of humanity is not Hive. Hive has not even scratched a tiny fraction of its possible adoption. In a competitive environment people will make comments that may provoke offense in the listener or reader. We are responsible for the quality of our communications, but generally not the emotional response of the recipient.
A managable level of conflict is healthy for a community or network, it is an indicator that the people comprising the community are passionate and invested. There is some threshold where productive conflict can become destructive. Take the larger view, sublimate frustration into creative energy. Don't get angry, get useful.
This analysis is offered without substantial or granular knowledge of the particulars. This is a fundamental part of the human condition, and these particular patterns manifest in every domain or endeavor and are not particular to the Hive community.
Coming back to Hive after a prolonged absence, the innovation across the chain and in the various projects and frotends is remarkable. While a hackneyed expression a rising tide can certainly lift all boats. While I have a particular affection for the Inleo team, I make use and enjoy many of the applications and frontends here for various purposes. It remains an entirely remarkable endeavour.
Cool response.
When people are angry, they want to destroy things. It is better to channel that anger into something useful and constructive.
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I am not sure whether it's righteous or not. All I know is the destruction isn't good.
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!DIYSTATSAs part of that vast contingent of humanity that isn't yet invested in Hive, but part of that very tiny contingent who is just coming here, I want to echo the sentiment of Ed's post. What I'm seeing talked about by some as, at best, a distraction, and at worst, a harm to the network, seems like necessary activity that is going to occur, and it's simply a matter of how it's navigated; there's no avoiding different opinions.
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You speak absolutely wisely. We should listen to complains with a sense of taking responsibility where necessary; we should avoid explosive venting of anger that might shatter the little bricks which have been led so far. In unity and togetherness, let's continue building the Hive Blockchain. We've not done pretty much to start shouting when more than 99.999...% is yet to be achieved.
My humble little opinion, thank you.
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You're doing great work to build on Hive and continue to do the same, and avoid all this that distracts you because its non-productive.
You're right and I will. There's a list of a few who I will now be ignoring until they're ready to have a productive convo
We all know who needs to go but most witnesses are not doing their job right
I've been getting downvoted for a while now just because I helped out a friend year's ago who is now exposing the truth about Hive 😂
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If you would like to speak to me in private send me a message on Instagram @kgakakillerg
Many in the community have a few witnesses in mind who aren't living up to their expectations
That being said, they feel they can't speak out because they'll get attacked and downvoted
Calling for more open discussion should be a positive thing, not something that gets attacked
Anyone should be free to say what they like and speak freely no one should be getting attacked by people who are doing nothing positive for Hive
I've never faced downvotes online in my life only on Hive and I've been around since the MySpace days I think my account is still up @kgakakillerg
Anyone speaking the truth not being silenced on a Blockchain that meant to be decentralised 🤔
I've seen a lot of suspicious stuff and been shown a lot of suspicious stuff that is taking place on Hive
Each account can vote for 30 witnesses. Isn't that too much? Wouldn't it be fairer to reduce it to 10? Someone with 90 million HP of voting power can choose the witnesses they want. If we want decentralization to decrease, a change must be made here. But since being able to vote for 30 is in favor of the first 20 witnesses, I don't think they will want to change this.
LF witness can develop new strategies to enter the top 20. You earn tokens when you vote for witnesses on other blockchains. LF witness can also distribute LEO tokens.
My article is very interesting and best wishes to all of us.
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I don’t even know what a witness does to witness blocks
I assume it’s more than just double clicking an EXE and keeping the computer on. I assume it’s more like pulsechain validators
Well said Khal. Keep up all the great work and energy.
Down here in my town there are a pair of old and famous sayings that goes like this:
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In spanish:
What more or less means that when someone is talking about something in general (to everyone) and suddenly you feel like they are talking about you indirectly. Maybe what they are saying hurts you or offend you, only because you somehow know it's true and it's a fault you have or had.
Therefore don't be surprised that all those who in some way felt alluded to, outraged and offended by what you said in your video without specifically naming anyone. They reacted the way they did because they undoubtedly eat chili or have been bitten by snakes some time.
And now, let the discussion continue!