Slightly confused, and I was wondering if you could help? In the 2020 US presidential election the Democrats, under Biden, received just over 81m votes and Trump received just over 74m votes. The turnout was 66%.
In the US election that has just been held the Democrats, under Harris, have received 69m votes and Trump has 73.5m votes, he's approaching the number of votes he won in 2020. The turnout for this election is virtually the same at 66%, although it looks like it will probably be a bit less.
I know there is still some counting going on but we are nearing the end with only Arizona to declare, they have now counted 78% of the votes.
So if the same volume of people have turned out to vote in this election as in 2020 and given the votes for Trump and Harris as above, we are missing 12m votes. I have checked the other candidates who were listed on the ballot paper in each state and they have received nowhere near 12m votes between them. So where have these votes gone?
Sounds like you're operating under some kind of premise that Harris should get as many votes as Biden even though Harris is wildly unpopular and the Biden administration fucked up the entire economy. In 2020 everyone came out to vote against Trump, that same level of enthusiasm is nowhere to be found.
Also California alone is about to give Harris 4M more votes.
I really don't understand what is so hard to get about this.
Simply wait for all the votes to be counted first before making these accusations.
I am not making any accusation at all, as you can clearly see from my comment. I am simply asking a question. I am fully prepared to admit I might be missing something here.
I know there is still some counting going on but at the moment we're looking for 12m votes. Let's see if they materialise.
You are very clearly making an accusation simply by assuming there should be the same number of votes.
Why are you operating under this assumption?
The answer is obvious; there's only one reason to make this assumption.
And it's the same reason that's flying all over the Internet right now.
You really think you can act like this is an innocent question, eh?
Interesting.
Once again you misunderstand. And you are right I am indeed operating under the assumption that there should be the same amount of votes in total in circulation because the voter turnout is virtually the same as in 2020, so there should indeed the same amount of votes.
If your question is:
Then the answer is the turnout wasn't 66%.
Right?
Just wait for the situation to unfold.
That's the real answer.
No, that is not my question. What figure do you have for the voter turnout in this election?
First of all: how do you think voter turnout is calculated?
Second of all: do you believe the denominator in this equation (the number of registered voters) stays the same every four years?
You seem to be operating under this assumption that the total amount of votes is calculated in a different way other than adding up all the votes. How does that work? Show me where you got this number. You're just saying things with zero links to any actual data.
I don't know and I don't care.
Elections are not secure and I've never voted in one.