UBI isn't Socialism. it is just a baseline "living cost" allowance to let people actually have a chance at developing themselves in a future especially where automation takes over the world.
What would you suppose otherwise for a world where everything from manufacturing (factory robots), transportation (self-driving trucks and ships), construction (automated cranes and builders), office jobs (Big Data), Professionals (Task specific AIs like IBM Watson .etc), IT (self replicating AI), Finanace (Again, bots and AI) and virtually every other things is done my automated softwares and hardware?
Take it to a more personal level, what are you doing to sustain your life now? A robot will take that over in our lifetime, very sure of it. I am professional drone pilot and even i don't kid myself and know one day these drones fly themselves. what do you suppose i do then?
Having UBI is not welfare check "for the lazy". All of us are lazy retarded unproductive idiots compared to the 24/7 efficiency of robots. Is that our fault?
UBI as least gives a person a means of sustaining themselves in order to find a way to be productive. Lets say there is no UBI and the only jobs left are drug pushing and prostitution to the people who are rich-by-default, since everything else is taken over by bots that are owned by the few who are born into the family that owns them. Is a woman now "lazy" because she would rather not sell herself for a meal?
Of course, if and when that future becomes a reality, i can easily go back into the woods and homestead on a piece of illegally owned land. If that's what it takes to be productive i'd do it.
UBI is far form Socialism.
Socialism = a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
UBI is a fully capitalistic idea if you think about it. Only that the capitalism is done by the centralized authority that controls the population with the UBI and the big corps that has free reign on maximizing profits and power with their nigh-infinite production capability, no pesky worker unions or employee rights to worry about.
In the 1970's George Wald proclaimed that civilization would end within 30 years. Paul Erlich declared the 100 -200 million people per year would starve to death within 10 years. Al Gore, who "created the internet", swore Arctic ice would disappear by 2013. Yet there is still ice! How long will people be manipulated by their Chicken Little complexes?
Centralized capitalism is not capitalism at all. It is communism.
Did you just called the United States of America a communism?
USSR had a UBI. Communist China, UBI. All the people they killed, not impressed!
this is like saying "Guns are made of metal, swords are made of metal, therefore metal is for killing".
Do explain how UBI leads to killing?
because if i am correct in using that same logic, i can easily replace "UBI" with any other thing.
See how that doesnt make sense?
Every place that communist thought has been tried, which includes UBI, has become or is in the process of becoming, despotic. In fact, that has been the most deadly political system in history! A trend is a trend.
You are equating UBI and communism, which does not make sense. You do know that the idea communism is made up of many components right?
and why are we even talking about communism? the argument here is about the viability of UBI in future society.
For Context, i do agree with @dollarvigilante on his idea that government and finance should be segregated. The current fiat currency system represents the worst kind of enslavement a ruling class has imposed to it's people.
While people are not dying, can you confidently say they are living? Sure they are technically, as long as they are profit making statistics in a spreadsheet. Unless they get out of the system and be weirdo hippie anarchist like even @dollarvigilante himself, one of the weirdest dude a normal American will ever see. Guy who plants his own shit in the backyard.