Please elaborate how going out in the street with people that already agree with you and shouting dumb catch phrases helps any true political discourse or dialog. :)
And ofc violent protests is the worst form. The Antifa also used bottles and balloons filled with feces as weapons according to @dwinblood. So it is not like there was only one weaponized side. The shields are a representation btw that they see themselves as defenders and not agressors.
Of course, everyone is defender. Thats why we have a defense ministry not a war ministry ;)
Please elaborate how going out in the street with people that already agree with you and shouting dumb catch phrases helps any true political discourse or dialog. :)
You didn't talk about "true" political discourse or dialog. you said that violence is the result. That are two very different things.
Normally voicing the political opinion leads to less violence. That is even true if it comes to some violence at the demo, because he pressure is out.
Of course what was in Charlottesville more looked like a pressure cooker and that environment breeds violence on both sides.
Oh I guess this was party a misunderstanding. I meant that most demos don't lead to any significant change, but sometimes violence hence I said "they only lead to violence. " I did not mean to say that they always lead to violence.
that environment breeds violence
that is pretty much exactly what I mean. I have seen videos of people actually discussing problems controvercially while respecting each other. This was very rare footage though.
Demonstrations often feel like a shouting contest and I would argue that you generally see more demonstrations that are just against something without really offering a thought through alternative.
That is not true.
But if course if you go there with guns and shields and bulletproof vests and say you are ready to kill.... someone will get killed.
Please elaborate how going out in the street with people that already agree with you and shouting dumb catch phrases helps any true political discourse or dialog. :)
And ofc violent protests is the worst form. The Antifa also used bottles and balloons filled with feces as weapons according to @dwinblood. So it is not like there was only one weaponized side. The shields are a representation btw that they see themselves as defenders and not agressors.
Of course, everyone is defender. Thats why we have a defense ministry not a war ministry ;)
You didn't talk about "true" political discourse or dialog. you said that violence is the result. That are two very different things.
Normally voicing the political opinion leads to less violence. That is even true if it comes to some violence at the demo, because he pressure is out.
Of course what was in Charlottesville more looked like a pressure cooker and that environment breeds violence on both sides.
Oh I guess this was party a misunderstanding. I meant that most demos don't lead to any significant change, but sometimes violence hence I said "they only lead to violence. " I did not mean to say that they always lead to violence.
that is pretty much exactly what I mean. I have seen videos of people actually discussing problems controvercially while respecting each other. This was very rare footage though.
Demonstrations often feel like a shouting contest and I would argue that you generally see more demonstrations that are just against something without really offering a thought through alternative.