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RE: Abortion Is a Natural Right

in #abortion8 years ago

Some cultures in history would agree. They thought killing their babies was just fine. In fact they thought that killing their children was OK. The age varied but some considered children property of their parents until they left home...to be killed at the will of the parent....or not.

Same argument.

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I am not even speaking for a child. I am talking about an unborn fetus.

Even then though the mother who supports life is allowed to decide as she wishes. nobody else

a fetus is a child.
life begins at conception.

or so you think. at conception the cells of the fetus are no different than the ones found under your nails when you scratch your skin.

I would assume biology wasn't your forte at school

Do you believe the cells under your nails can grow into a separate, individual homo sapien? Looks like a false analogy fallacy.

Yes, under proper scientific advances you can clone an entire human being even from a hair follicle.

you see what's the problem with these debates? Uneducated people try to reason their morality. it's like debating about magic with people from the middle ages

if something can be killed then it is alive.
simple logic.
I'm surprised...it took you almost two paragraphs before you resorted to personal attack.
very good.

Are you a master to treat me as an inferior?

nah. just advice so can you stop looking like an idiot to more people

Oddly enough I agree with you.
The sort of people that want abortions should be allowed to have them.
encouraged actually.

7+ billion people are enough for this planet. I am not going to fathr any children. ever.

A cell on your skin can be killed. A plant in your garden can be killed. Your hair follicles can be killed.

indeed. very simple logic. Thing is in our case a parasite that depends on another life to have life can kill the host.

You need to google what a personal attack is. You are too touchy feely. Next time think before you type.

VERY GOOD. See how clearly one can thing when not blinded by hatred?
That's exactly what I said.

Oh..and who are you to tell me what I NEED to do?
do you have some special gift?
Are you a master to treat me as an inferior?

(6 deep nest)

Oddly enough I agree with you.
The sort of people that want abortions should be allowed to have them.
encouraged actually.

A fetus is like a plant.
We chop trees and kill plants everyday! It's the same thing.

Your DNA produces plants?

Strawman.

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:

Person A has position X.
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
Person B attacks position Y.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

No...it is what's called a JOKE.
Lighten up.
was your sense of humor surgically removed?

Aztecs did it regularly, read an old book for more info on the matter:

https://www.amazon.com/Conquest-New-Spain-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140441239

I wonder how big they were on woman's rights?
I wonder what the correlation is between the cultural attitude toward abortion and woman's rights.
I wonder if women should be careful what they wish for?

I wonder if you've read the book.

One was written by Cortez's personal chronicler and one about 500 years later...

Think about it :)

and the bible was writtedn fifteen hundred years earlier.
The Koran was written five hundred years earlier.
The Rig Veda was written 2500 years earlier.
The work I indicated REFERENCED the cortez expedition. (and many others, the bibliography is about twenty pages)
Think about it.

@everittdmickey
With men in charge, women are often put into places of protection. (or up on a pedestal). The woman's body, her choice is an argument that only works on men.

With women in charge, they will control each others access to breeding. They will decide who can and who cannot have children. If the grand dame does not approve of you having a child, then getting pregnant is akin to being thrown out of the tribe. My body, my choice, quickly becomes our food/shelter our choice under a patriarchy.

I have a RADICAL idea
How bout NO ONE be "in charge".
Oddly enough I don't feel the need to have someone else tell me how to live.
Do you?

I am tired of having men/women flip/flop who's in charge.
I am ready to see something else. I don't know if we will get to no one being in charge. At least not soon. But, we can hope.

I was just stating what things were like in the past.