Btw, we're in the election in Norway this autum. Liberalistene. It's historical. The first time a libertarian party will have that many votes in Norway. Previous partys have reached like 500 votes. We are expecting around 10k votes. Could go to 30k as well. Giving the party around 10$ each year in goverment substitutes the next 4 years. (Getting back some of our tax money.)
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It's good to hear you are allowed to call your party "Liberals". Here in Sweden the old social liberal party Folkpartiet changed it's name simply to "Liberals" in order to prevent the new classical liberal party Klassiskt Liberala Partiet from having it, after they had already complained to authorities about the names being too similar! Quite the heist - and they're closer to the Social Democrats than ever.
I hope you do well in the election!
Wow that sucks man. Is Sweden doomed?
I hope not. Some things speak for it.
Sweden is after all not exactly as socialist as most people think or at least in the same way that they usually imagine it; We still have 'many' semiprivate options (in schools, hospitals, roads, state run post offices were replaced by local shops, now farmacies are semi-private as well etc) and the regulation and corruption in general is of course really bad in other countries as well, for example the U.S. In many cases, Sweden isn't the worst. At least we still get something for our taxes.
On the other hand there are many dark clouds. Healthcare is rapidly deteriorating again, the draft is probably making a return, unprincipled populism is growing. We've got a large portion of islamist radicals above all else, but also growing violent (traditional) anarchist and fascist clash. Oh and the money that was supposed to be for researching and preventing radical Islam.... the feminists took that and used it for gender 'science' instead.
The immigration and EU sceptical party is now expected to be the second largest party. The leaders of said party joined it when many members were still wearing nazi uniforms at their meetings.... They're very reformed now, but let's just say that their scepticism isn't against state power.
Right now it looks to me like we could stay the course with Trump like populism only for so long before a more ideological movement starts to take over. Hopefully it will be an alliance of established social "Liberals", rather than the Leftwing party... or even worse, the fascists that see themselves as the "antidote" to communism.
Question is, what happens if we remove the incentive for islamists to move here... but which also tend to work as a bribe for them not to attack us from within?
I try to cheer up though and work on solutions, rather than lock myself into the ever popular cage of cynicism and pessimism =)
Very cool! Good luck in the elections. We had our elections in March but the Libertarian Party didn't get any seats in parliament... Such a shame.
Is it true that you have like 3 or 4 different capitalist parties in Holland?
Not that I know of. The biggest party is the 'liberal' party, who portray themselves as classical liberals, but are actually in favor of bigger government (in the form of the EU) and for maintaining the welfare state.
The Libertarian Party is obviously capitalist, but they didn't get any seats in parliament.
There is also a newer party, Forum voor Democratie (Forum for Democracy), who are in a sense more market oriented than most parties in the Netherlands. But they also stand for protectionism.
So the question is what you define as capitalist. More government means less capitalism ;-)
Absolutely. More precicely I was thinking of
libertarian parties. Looks like theres only 1 then.
Yep, although Forum voor Democratie is also somewhat classical liberal in some ways. But also a bit protectionist.