A few days ago I went through a transformation. Instead of feeling anger for statists, I started feeling sorry for them and decided to just laugh at their childish nonsense.
Someone indoctrinated to the level of not being able to grasp logic, even when explained in the most basic of terms, deserves our compassion. They don't know any better, but to rape us with their delusional ignorance.
I cannot judge a fish by its ability to climb trees. I cannot save that fish by safely placing it on a tree. A fish is a fish. I can talk to a fish, but it is my fault, if I get angry when I expect to hear anything smart back.
Here is the fist part of my "debate" with a very indoctrinated cult member, with the most fitting name for sheeple, who decided to attack my recent post, calling me an idiot (yet another dumbass projecting), based on his self-contradictory beliefs and 0 evidence, as usual. All the best to you @baah
The article is called "Chaos for the naive"
https://steemit.com/anarchy/@evolutionnow/chaos-for-the-naive
I didn't have to wait long for the naive cult member to start defending his religion with aggression of a rabid ape, with foam dripping from his yap, while he was trying (and failed miserably so far, as always) to prove his "obvious" truth, indoctrinated into his confused head.
Here we go:
ME: and there he is, the bootlicking cult of statism victim, stating what he was taught to repeat... I feel your anger. don't worry, I am not attacking you. It's your cognitive dissonance playing with your head. so much work just to look dumb when I reply? I challenge anyone to a debate. Never lost... Next time support it with some evidence, so you are at least someone on a debatable level. I have tons to support what I wrote. I don't have time to waste on your ignorance, but I should probably return your wasted time out of respect, you did not really deserve for being an aggressive little monkey, but I like you. I learned recently to laugh at your cult. I'm not angry anymore. It is pointless anyway if you do not understand the basic logic... ah... what the hell; I will however reply to your poop as short as I can, with links for you to do your own research. I am not doing your moral duty in full for you:
BAAAAAH: /Government is established to enforce rules which are there to secure rights, without force behind the rules nobody can be brought to justice. Without rules there's no justice or order, chaos being natural to any absence of structure, people could drive down the wrong side of the road, monopolies would dominate the world without any problem and ultimately the instability of trade and economy in general would invariably lead to a lot of suffering./
ME: Say it to Nobel winning economist, professors and other geniuses at Mises. Wipe the rabid foam off your yap before.
No one likes to "debate" with an angry ape, if you had any argument at all, that is ;)
https://mises.org/library/law-without-state
HE: /Read the Milgram experiments then tell me that it was the order givers that should shoulder the blame./
I am well aware of Milgram. How exactly did you bend logic here to fit in to your sick narrative?
So the guy bombing hell out of brown people without asking the people who pay for this, was a victim? FED printed trillions, putting every new born in hundred thousands of debt... don't you think your "poor victim dictator" should ask before slaughtering millions of people for your money? DUMB!!! And when gen. Wesley Clark said it would happen, but then Bush, Obamer, Blair etc made up all the excuses, when it was already known they planned the invasions before is what? You argue with your indoctrinated beliefs. I argue with facts and I have sooooo much more evidence, you would need to spend years to go through them, like I did. Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb :D
/Equally the Milgram experiment is key here, because it wasn't government that was to blame, or the faceless entity in Don Quixote style you're titillating at, but the numerous people who simply followed orders, which isn't a good defense for crimes against humanity such as mass murder, to bad that the faceless boots that carried the orders through won't get a glance at even when you're busy calling a painter, an author and an intellectual a moron, because it was the act of a dim mind to gain control over an entire people and receive their adoration./
Germans were starving due to sanctions and other problems. Hitler said "Enough! Let's get the responsible" and angry mob followed, as usual. In case they did not, he wrote on his tissue it was mandatory and called it law.
He was a smart guy. Not much practical skills, but how to manipulate people. Just a spiritual and emotional infant, like you ;)
So it wasn't the beast of a government enforcing orders that people followed? Thay had a choice? How many Germans were shot dead for refusing? You contradict yourself. You say without enforcing law there is no obeying the law, but.. Do you even logic? What can a small angry dude do without the magic pen that turns scribbles into law? Get a face slap to calm down at most. Duuuuuumb! :D
/Logic flies out the window the moment I point out that No, bringing someone before a jury of their peers to face justice doesn't make me a psychopath or sociopath, but wrongly asserting that "ALL" interactions must be voluntary is a type of general nonsense that cannot be approached once someone brings up the fact that rules without enforcement are neither rules nor LOGICAL./
Voluntary interaction isn't logical only to people who don't do logic, but repeat some dumb garbage instead. The sect is strong with you, I see. So you are saying that people deciding locally how to deal with problems instead of centralized rule of strangers isn't logical? Not the people who are affected directly by some wrongdoing? Dumb! People can voluntarily decide by consensus what serves them. They can surround themselves with people who have similar opinions and form a community. Rules enforced by threat of death are not freedom by any measure and if you cannot get it, you are either dumb, or just very indoctrinated.
/I guess you're gonna have to consider things some more, tell me, do you have a right as a business to enforce rules both of your employees and costumers?/
Nobody has that right. This is why no one in govs can have this right, because no one can delegate rights no one has. Businesses create products or services and you choose. Employees sign a voluntary contract. You don't see the difference between voluntary and force... not sure how to deal with this. I'm not a psychologist, but I dabble... no time, sorry. Do you believe in Santa too?
And no I don't. I studied long enough, to not have to rethink logic. I highly recommend this to you.
Riddle me this :
Is there any means by which any number of individuals can delegate to someone else the moral right to do something which none of the individuals have the moral right to do themselves?
Do those who wield political power (presidents, legislators, etc.) have the moral right to do things which other people do not have the moral right to do? If so, from whom and how did they acquire such a right?
Is there any process (e.g., constitutions, elections, legislation) by which human beings can transform an immoral act into a moral act (without changing the act itself)?
When law-makers and law-enforcers use coercion and force in the name of law and government, do they bear the same responsibility for their actions that anyone else would who did the same thing on his own?
When there is a conflict between an individual's own moral conscience, and the commands of a political authority, is the individual morally obligated to do what he personally views as wrong in order to "obey the law"?
/Iceland-One, you-Zero./
A trumpet is a nice instrument. I took it down to your level of arguing. Arguing with your cult is like playing chess with a pigeon. You will shit on the chessboard and walk around proud you won...
/The onus of proof isn't on anyone else, and you still have to make a case against the government of Iceland/
Government is the exercise of violence, forcing everyone to the rule of a few strangers or even if it is 99% of votes against 1%, I am as free as the least free among us.
/Except it's not Theft, it's voluntary by the election of the person and it's also the disadvantage you must bear if you use the benefits from Taxation. Benjamin Franklin said it best/
So you are a dictator now? I did not elect anyone to rule over me. I am telling you I do not wish to pay it. If I don't and it is taken from me by force, what is it? You redefine language now to fit into your sectarian beliefs? I want to decide what I contribute to, what I donate money for, instead of being threatened death if I don't give half of what is mine. Can you get basics of peaceful coexistence? Stop forcing me to your rabid ape worldview, ok?
/It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of practical importance of having a fair and uniform justice system for national tranquility, in order to secure the god given rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of property and happiness./
Fair? It is fair some strangers decide what to do to me, based on nonsense. Like growing a plant? Like taxing me for using solar panels or rain water? Are you retarded per chance?
If you order people around and forbid them to trade as freely and openly, however they wish, not causing harm or defrauding anyone, you regulate their lives, you are an inhumane piece of shit
/Except that you cannot have Private Justice, you can have private security but private justice isn't Justice but the abortion of justice./
Yes you can, as per the first 3 links I provided. You keep stating shit you have no idea about. As every cult member who invested their life in being taught this crap. Are you some lawyer perhaps?
There are so many options! You can rate people based on feedback about them from their interactions with others. Amazon does their disputes internally, Airbnb etc. Clearly it isn't working in your head. You can use Blockchain to do so. The problem is that no one would like to interact with angry little monkey like you... and this is why you need your masters to force us ;)
/When and where did the police get authority over their employers?/
I am their employer. They have authority over me. I am the one who is paying them for their "service" of protecting me. Putting me in cage if I don't pay tax for using the sun is not what I want to pay for. DUMB!
/Private protection, why didn't the colonists chose that instead of self rule? They were dumb?/
Were people a few hundred years ago dumb? No. I find that in ancient Greece, some people were very smart, BUT comparing to people today, who have access to all the knowledge of human race at a click?
The reason why US was the greatest country, was 200 years of semi anarcho-capitalism. As soon as it got more and more regulated, it became the monster we have today.
Lest stop here. I can reply to all your nonsense at some point. I have to do some other things than explaining freedom to your cult members. Digest this stuff and come back to me once you check out all the links. It should take you a few days. Argue the arguments presented in links. If you will come back and talk some shit you believe in, without any shred to support it, I will consider you not worthy a debate and ignore you completely... I might ridicule you first ;)
If you need some more materials to learn, here:
https://mises.org/library
If you don't like to read:
https://www.youtube.com/user/misesmedia
I can give you materials for min. next 5 years of your life. Let me know ;)
Check these guys out:
@adamkokesh
@larkenrose I used his 5 questions
@dollarvigilante
@wearechange
THE END OF PART 1.
Let me know what you think friends.
It is still me:
And still I have not found one thing I need a government for, that cannot be provided voluntarily; better, cheaper, without threatening me death, should I disobey "the provider".
Anyone is welcome to use this text apart from the members of the most evil cult in history of human kind.
I believe that every interaction between humans should be voluntary. I want for each individual to be the only controller of their lives and their property. I am an anarchist, a capitalist, a voluntaryist, but most of all, I am an individual, who does not recognize your value by the status you achieved in an imposed, imaginary collective. No matter who you are; if you respect others, respect me, I will always respect you.
PEACE AND LOVE IN ANARCHY
If you'd like to see who I am, check out my off-grid farm at @lostambores.
Love ya!
Rob
They don't know any better, but to rape us with their delusional ignorance.
Quote of the day hahahahaha
I went a few times to an open mike, but I chickened out... :D
Honestly the whole post is full of gold. You should seriously consider writing anarchist hallmark cards. If you can spit this kind of venom poetically and with a witty image on the front of the card we all win. 😂😂😂
Thanks :) I will censor my "profanity and foul language", turn every "moron", "retard", and "idiot" into "darling", "sweetheart" and "baby", get the grammar right and publish it with @omniloquent
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@originalworks
here's my favorite troll! thank you for being easy to describe and inspiring with your stupidity :D
So once again. Maybe this time: I do not want anything to do with you, your country, people who you consider to be smart or idiot. can you or can you not give me this freedom to choose? frickin Nazi idiot? I do not know Ben. Never met him. Never chose him. I do not care for your country; the land of free range slaves and home of the indoctrinated cowards, mkay? You can take Ben and give him a big kiss on his nob if you want. I do not care what you do. it is not my business and I promise that I never will try to control your life, just do the same and leave me alone you violent monkey ;) I'm not reading anything you scribble until you get what a 5yo does
what? can I not obey the rules, I never gave consent to? how can you still not understand? I don't care about jurisdiction lines of the masters you want to obey. I do not. Do I have a choice? Isn't it time to stop, before you will implode?
What happens to me if I do not want to pay taxes, I wish to grow a plant that makes me happy and helps some health issues or if I do not obey a few thousand other rules, I do not want to obey? You are forcing me, because I do not want to obey these rules, but you want me to be threatened death if I do not obey them. You want to kill me if I do not obey them. My choice is to obey or die. Is this clear now? You are an anarchist that chose the declaration of independence to be true for me, and I have to obey or die? This does not even make you a fully developed human.
Did I wish you death? I notice that you are not immortal and evolution will take care of you soon enough. I wish for a voluntary, peaceful civilization. Since people like you refuse to learn, they will need to die out before the obvious becomes reality. You don't see the obvious. Wake up or at least shut up ;)
OK. You are immortal, evolution does not unfold itself whether I wish it or not... whatever sweetie. You just get dumber and dumber to the level it is not entertaining for me anymore. Why don't you take your roads and take a nap? don't be so cranky. boobie needs a hug?
guess what, just because you start your statement with "guess what" it does not make it a fact. you are not an oracle of what is for me. I do not care for a piece of paper written by some dead guys 300 years ago. You must be retarded to be so proud of some obsolete shit, people who could not imagine one millionth of blockchain or anything we have today. Go back in time and suck them off dude. It is not my business what you do. It is not your business what I do. Do you get it? Just stay the fuk away with your stinky shoes, full of intellectual shit, from my beautiful carpet in my home, OK? And again you dumb, patriotic moron, I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY. Freedom is even bigger than your Nazi USA, OK? To aggressively defend the sectarian belief that slave-owners were the oracles of liberty takes a brain-dead moron. Were they some god-sent angels that hocuspocused rules for living my life 300 years ago... magically? I highly doubt you are not on some heavy meds .
I don't even know what this means. Your rabid foam is dripping on your keyboard and you don't make any sense. where is that consent you moron? I am telling you I do not give my consent. Will you take out Ben Franklin's magic wand and abracadabra what I just said and pretend it is my consent? again I DO NOT GIVE ANYONE ANY CONSENT TO BE GOVERNED.
govern
ˈɡʌv(ə)n/Submit
verb
conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of (a state, organization, or people) with authority <- this authority is being forced on me. I did not choose it. I am telling you I do not want it. What is so hard for you? Try logic dude. It will work miracles for your brain.
Fuk your flag, fuk your country, borders, troops, wars, democracy, threats, robbery you call taxes, papers, and most of all fuk you too, because your belief in this cult creates my oppression... especially if you will still try to explain to me what I want and pretend I gave my consent. How dumb exactly can you be? You can write. Can you read?
Give me an example of being governed other than by imposed authority, that only a government has the legal right to impose. "Governed" is reserved to legal force of government. They governed your mente pretty well for you ;) If you can choose the authority, it is a leadership, management etc. GOVERNED is not voluntary. Unless you suffer from a stockholm syndrome, which you do
You fail to recognize that warmongering, slaughter, control of every aspect of your life is imposed on human race, through brainwashing and propaganda. You fail to recognize who makes the decision, turns them into law, that lead to death of 300 million people in last 100 years alone. You defend this cancer with all you've got. You are not a syndrome, because it is physically impossible. You are a failed human. You have a Stockholm Syndrome and this is the direct proof of it.
Again, give me an example of being governed without the threat of violence, if I do not want to be governed. When you vote you are choosing a stranger who promised things you want. Not the things I want. He writes threats that I do not recognize as laws, that describe what will happen to me, if I do not obey your worldview. What is it?
I know what I meant. you think a lot of things, just the other way around. do me a favor and whenever you think something, stop, and check the exact opposite. one day your head will be yours
I lowered myself to your level for your convenience.