How would you enforce 'relevant training'? My understanding of consentualism is that if we expect others to trust us to know what we're doing we have to extend that trust ourselves.
You believe everyone should have the choice to wear a gun but it's 'a genuine shock to see a revolver strapped to the hip of an officer'.
Presumably then it was the new (to you) imbalance of power that was shocking? (just to clarify).
Apologies, but "no one has the right to oppress another" sounds to me like something a mainstream politician might say. Whilst not wrong, it's too broad to be helpful.
Bill Thornton's approach to common law is the best I am aware of, incorporating well established principles of law, with a jury of the people as the ultimate arbiters of right/wrong. But my point was that 'common law' in this sense is simply not recognized at this time in the wider society and/or the legal system.
Sorry, but if you believe people should have weapons like this without training from any source and so would, for instance place one in the hands of a 12 year old and essentially say ' off you go then' I refuse to live next to you. Without a basic understanding of where a safety is and to think of what is around or behind what you are shooting at..... well I just cant be bothered explaining it further.
As for the minutia you seem to want to drill down to in every sentence I utter, I'm sure your trolling is giving you a grim satisfaction and a chuckle, but I will no longer give you that. I believe I have been more than clear in my stance, Disagree if you must and move on.
Just remember to vote for me at the next election!
I don't believe people should have weapons like this without training. I believe I cannot assign the 'right' to force others to accept my belief in 'relevant training' to license enforcers of some kind, because I don't have that right to assign. Do you?
I think your points are well intended. Where am I disagreeing with you? 'Drilling down' is simply attempting greater clarity which I hope we all find useful. Isn't that the purpose of a forum?
I don't think he is trolling so much as asking questions about things you are saying that are contradictory in nature.
Personally, I believe all people have the right to bare arms and defend themselves.
I also believe that any forced training would violate peoples rights.
Finally, I believe that if someone is stupid enough to carry around a weapon they are not competent with and injures someone else while doing so they should be fully accountable for their stupidity.
Simply boiling things down to rights (equal, inherent, and inalienable) and then holding people accountable for violating the rights of others would make the world a much better place.
Yes... most people are horribly dumbed down by government run schools... but the ideas of actual freedom are simple once the layers of statism are pulled away.
Most 12 year olds that carry guns are better (more responsible) with them than most police officers.
The ONLY people you see constantly pointing loaded fire arms at other people who have done nothing wrong are invading armies and police officers.
Every real gun owner knows that you DO NOT POINT A LOADED WEAPON at another human being unless it is life and death.
If anything happens (hair trigger, you get bumped into, etc.) the last thing you want is to kill someone that was not posing a threat to you.