"Where did the concept of "need" enter this conversation?" I've been talking about what's necessary. This has been enjoyable, but this discussion doesn't seem to be going anywhere so long as you aren't taking into account what I'm saying, and keep re-defining what my argument is to derail the point. I apologize if my wording has been unclear at some point, but I think you know full well what I'm getting at, and that's not what you're addressing. This is intellectually dishonest of you, but I would be happy to continue this should you actually address what I'm saying.
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"Where did the concept of "need" enter this conversation?" I've been talking about what's necessary."
Right that is what you have been going on about but the question is why do you think "necessary" matters? Where does it say I am only allowed that which in your opinion is necessary?