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RE: Response to Roaming Millennial's Problem with Libertarians

in #anarchy6 years ago (edited)

Yes, the government we have now is far from a proper one & most of the folks running it have no interest in liberty or the rights of the individual.

That’s why we need to get rid of those folks.

If you get rid of the whole thing altogether you guarantee that might & whim will rule over right & reason

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If you get rid of the whole thing altogether you guarantee that might & whim will rule over right & reason

This is an unsubstantiated, speculative claim. However, to allow open seats of power based on favors, family, and majority opinion (what government is now) and not based on sound private property grundnorms, results in what we have now:

Might and whim ruling over right and reason.

You have made no argument showing how ISO-based grundnorms result in this description. The description you make applies much more accurately to government than the lack thereof.

It is also critical to remember that voluntaryists are not against governance, but coercive, non-voluntary government violence.

I’ve backed up the claim. How do you propose to use reason to resolve a dispute among neighbors when they have different ideas about what does and does not constitute aggression?

If your neighbor steals your intellectual property and he doesn’t believe it is property (and can’t be convinced that it is) the use of force (might) is the only way to settle it.

The same applies in the case of an abortion where one party believes there’s been a murder and the other party doesn’t. There’s no way to mediate such a dispute. Again, might would rule over reason.

How do you propose to use reason to resolve a dispute among neighbors when they have different ideas about what does and does not constitute aggression?

How is this done now?

You are saying since people disagree, it is better just to stick with a system based on theft and murder, than to have courts and other such organizations in a system based on private property?

That’s an insane and dangerous perspective.

You haven’t answered my question, but I’ll answer yours.

A proper government needn’t be funded through theft.

Now, care to address how a voluntary system would address the problems I presented via right & reason instead of might & whim?

The only reason might and whim rule exist now is because of government. Without government, there would be impartiality under the law. In other words all would be equal under law, and law would be based on damage to people, their property, or people failing to keep their word. There would be a victim. In a voluntary society, government would no longer be there to protect predators. People who believed in might being right would DIE and be outlaws. They would not be welcome in a peaceful and civilized society.