That’s really great. I think we should be looking for where we relate rather than where we differ.
I think all the “isms” really vary in understanding depending on your prior assumptions. I have never considered myself socialist, although I do doubt a “free market” can do a much better job at distributing resources fairly than a state can. To me neither are ideal, as I would prefer no structural hierarchy, and both a state and currency are hierarchical in nature. The world I am imagining would require such a drastically different culture that its not very easy to imagine. I tend to believe a democratic social state that’s main goal is to render itself obsolete may be better than a completely free market, but I’m happy to work with anyone who is ready to experiment and explore possibilities and not take advantage of others, basically.
And yes, value is completely relative! :-)
There are people who hallucinate they have the "the right to rule", who are the masters. (not the servants, servants serve, they don't command and punish) the believe that they are servants is indoctrinated in the masses.
Do you think it's possible that these power hungry individual are gonna render the "platform" (or I can better say religion) that gives them, that perceived right to rule, obsolete?
What would you do if you had the (perceived) divine right of politicians to rule everyone, in a given geographical location? Make them obey you ideas or ideology? Would you render it obsolete?
What would you do if you were king?
I don’t think thats a trait unique to politicians, you find it just as rampantly in finance and the tech industry and you can’t trust those people to render themselves obsolete, but you can’t solve a problem with the same thinking that caused it. We need to first render them obsolete through an unwillingness to participate in the culture of fear and division that they’ve created, through trust in each other, strong communities and faith in humanity. Those are what they are lacking and it’s from those that new possibilities arise.
Thanks for the reply.
Those bussinnesses do not have perceived right to rule, they can't punish you or lock you up, you can break the contract that you personally singed, and so can they.
The problem is that only through government you must pay and your money goes to big companies, government prescribes you to use only one sort of currency, and have a monopoly on everything, by their monopoly on force they can force you to do bussiness with their friends.
There goes lot of tax money to the war industry which otherwise people who have a conscience (I think a lot) would not voluntarily fund that.
It takes on debt for you and worse the generations after us then they save the banks this may sound nice for the people who have their saving there. But in the long run it isn't.
Giving money to banks (think about that for a while lol) and than thinking that regulating banks will do the trick is absurd. Banks grew about thirty percent after being regulated. Unbelievable.
But to come back to the "right to rule" that is what they don't have and I and you and no one has.
For example, you or anybody has no right to say what I agree upon with another human being (when both agree), you can give me advise on how you think I should not work for someone in a hieracical structure and do suggestion, and talk to me about alternatives, but you can not forbit me to work for anyone or make an agreement. (As long as I don't hurt defraud murder anyone else) I'm sorry to say this, but I would see you or the commune or government, as an attacker that attack peaceful people making an voluntary arrangement
I think, that if someone wants a "bussiness" with no hierachy then some friends can start their own, kind of which you are saying in the last part of your reply Would be much more easier not jumping though hoops and regulations taxation and all other government threats.
There are communities in spain that work that way, voluntarily (so you can leave, with some rules that you PERSONALLY agreed to (very very important) in the beginning, so not a so called "social"contract but a real agreement.) there is no crime, no police. The biggest complaint form the "mayor" was paying taxes to a giant government that comes meddling in their peaceful community. So it can be certainly done. I wish I could find the video, to show it to you. (I would not want to live there for me it would feel like a prison the way they arranged things there I did not like I would like another sort of commune), but the people there liked it and I can imagine other people would like to do so too)
edit; this commune had a mayor which is a hieracical structure but I think the commune would not like if you or me came by and said no that's not how it must work. Hope you get what I'm saying.
I could also say something about corporations being fictional entities only there as a result of the fictional entity called government, but I leave it for now ;)
Thanks :)