RE: Forget about making money on Steemit. For now.

[nigelmarkdias]

Of course, free speech @abit
Does it include abuse too on Steemit?
@ebryans handled a vehement disagreement with my opionion quite differently.
Or a statement of suggested behaviour? @sigmajin

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[j3dy]

btw millions have been made an millions have been taken out, I remember a post showing just that a 4:1 ratio of powered down to earned in the platform. All the problems @sigmajin stated are there and aren't being accounted for. Those are some of the main points haunting the system and ned and dan are pretty much ghosts at this point, so when they are needed the most, they are hard forking :D

Also the lack of conversation isn't helping, I havent seen ned or dan active since I got here, there is the occasional interview, but nothing to pump up the hype like the previous year. No big commitments, no nothing, just deadlines, and shuffles, it's a social experiment for me at best at this point that is, and many of the startups here have whooshed off finding their hopes dismantaled. I remember a post like a tweet more like from ned and that's it hes like a celebrity in shooting, spotted aaand hes gone :)

We need to talk for sure :)

Btw what about this :)
https://steemit.com/steemit/@doitvoluntarily/every-one-of-us-can-help-steemit-to-grow

[abit]

I think you can be a good PR for Steemit, Inc the company. Please consider contact @ned if you have interest but haven't done that.

[nigelmarkdias]

Thank you, @abit
Of course, I am interested. What's the best way to make contact?
@ned @dan @dantheman

[abit]

@nigelmarkdias I believe you can find contact info here: https://steemit.com/@steemitjobs . Not all positions are posted there.

[nigelmarkdias]

Thank you, @abit

[sigmajin]

Does it include abuse too on Steemit?

Exactly what abuse do you see? I saw a bad post, i pointed out it was bad (and why) and i voted accordingly.

[nigelmarkdias]

Don't agree with your conclusion, @sigmajin but, you brought out some interesting points in a constructive way in this particular comment.
Therefore, upvoted that particular comment. Having said that:

1. You erroneously assume that I have contempt for whingers. Since, I gave you that impression. I apologize.
2. User base: Without sticky users, there is no Steemit. Agree with your conclusion but not with the extended ad hominem.
3. Bought in: I've not bought any crypto for fiat. I've "earned " Steem or crypto. So, I cannot comment on a trading/capital gain/loss of the Steem crypto currency.
4. I have not seen the blog post by @ned that you reference.
5. Thesis: Even if a few are making or in your opinion have made outrageous profits, the fact remains that without them we would not have that as a topic to discuss, debate or disagree on. I am grateful for the opportunity to participate, on whatever level, without a focus on what someone else is earning, at any level.
   Would like to thank you, sigmajin
   Your enthusiasm has given me some ideas for some fresh posts.

[sigmajin]

What would you advise to "think critically" about investing?

To start with, id ask myself if maybe there's a reason, aside from being born petty and motivated by greed, that the whingers (should not be a word) for whom you have so much contempt maybe have a reason for their dissatisfaction.

On a platform where one of the biggest problems is that it leaks userbase like a sieve, don't you think just attributing dissatisfaction to bad genetics is maybe just a little counter productive.

then maybe rethink statements like this

From day one, Steemit has been profitable to its investors, the holders of Steem Power.

because aside from being patently false, its more than a little insulting to people who bought in (rather than ninja mined their way in) and have taken a bath since.

Then maybe rethink statements like this:

Ned Scott & Dan Larimer have magnanimously invited anyone to join Steemit on the ground floor.

Because its also patently untrue. The people on the ground floor were ninjas. And dan wrote a blog post about how clever it was to keep most people off of the ground floor. At best, ned and dan invited any investor to join on the second floor. An invitation the acceptance of which resulted in a pretty significant payday.

Which is the fundamental problem with your whole thesis. You want users to stick around and accept not making a profit during what you represent as a nascent period of corporate development where no profit is realized by the organization at all, but whats really a period where significant profit is realized by a very few, at the expense of most users participating for free.

[nigelmarkdias]

this is particularly vomit inspiring.
@sigmajin

Of course, its upto you to opine on whether you feel a post is good or bad.
Beauty, as they say, is in the eye of the beholder :)

Starting from the top, I asked

So, how do you invest, thinking crtically, as you say @sigmajin eschewing ad hominem & ad nauseam

What would you advise to "think critically" about investing?

[j3dy]

btw millions have been made an millions have been taken out, I remember a post showing just that a 4:1 ratio of powered down to earned in the platform. All the problems @sigmajin stated are there and aren't being accounted for. Those are some of the main points haunting the system and ned and dan are pretty much ghosts at this point, so when they are needed the most, they are hard forking :D

Also the lack of conversation isn't helping, I havent seen ned or dan active since I got here, there is the occasional interview, but nothing to pump up the hype like the previous year. No big commitments, no nothing, just deadlines, and shuffles, it's a social experiment for me at best at this point that is, and many of the startups here have whooshed off finding their hopes dismantaled. I remember a post like a tweet more like from ned and that's it hes like a celebrity in shooting, spotted aaand hes gone :)

We need to talk for sure :)

Btw what about this :)
https://steemit.com/steemit/@doitvoluntarily/every-one-of-us-can-help-steemit-to-grow