I used to do the "That's a cool drawing, but if you actually want some upvotes you gotta play to the crowd here"
As curator, I think it's always better to educate than to punish.
But then again, I got tired because there's just so much entitlements and scumminess
As an artist I am only a hobbyist, but I've got friends who are professional artists who took one look at Steemit's attitude towards rewarding dubious accounts (some of them are rewarded daily) and they laugh at my face about joining. There's other intangible costs towards allowing scummy behaviour on this platform, tbh.
You should try to join curating for the platform, @midlet. You'll see the other side to this problem very rapidly.
But in general, yeah. I agree. References are a natural part of an artistic creativity process. No need to cite all your sources if an artist brings enough of their own creativity and originality into a piece. But the spectrum is wide and there's monetary gains to be made here on this platform.
They can laugh now. I see you're a dolphin now. When this market (FINALLY) turns around, you'll have the last laugh. It's hard to get anything going in a depression, but it won't always be like this.
So tbh, I hear you. Once you put the financial incentive in there, the scammers will come out of the woodwork and as you said, the spectrum is actually more complicated than a "This is the right response, this is the wrong response" but if I'm trying to keep things simple for people that may not understand the nuance, I'd just say let people be until there is something blatant, then feel free to lay the smack down.
We're a LONG way away from this but my vision for Steem is one where curation groups are no longer necessary because there are enough individuals to make it worth it and for the platform to police itself.
People have been taking credit for other people's work and ripping other people off in one manner or another since forever. It will be the same here, and people might get away with it for a bit, but they'll get found out eventually. It will always be a constant thing fighting abuse.
The thing is though when a genuine new user joins, they don't know anything about this, so I don't want the norm to be people immediately feeling the need to defend themselves or to feel like people are telling them what to do as soon as they get here. It's like going to a party and as soon as you walk through the door someone starts telling you what you can talk about, how you can dance, who you can talk to, where you're allowed to stand etc. Nobody would want to go to that party.
I donno if they'll regret it later. Steem is already in its 4th? year? 5th? I'm still here, curating and doing my thing, but I am not sure if this platform still will 'moon'
Poloniex delisting Steem recently wasn't a good outlook, either > __ <
I've been a dolphin for a while, but tbh, I've given away more than hundreds of Steems to other Steemians who needed the donations, because I am not here to make money :3
And frankly, I've been trying to onboard genuine new users, both before the OCD external curation happening and now with OCD, and I've seen these new users leaving the platform again because it is discouraging to see genuine talents and efforts being valued less against dubious people who just milk the platform for daily rewards.
Ideally, of course your dream situation sounds dreamy :> But we're a long, long way from there, and at the moment, the current system does not have robust enough system to safeguard "quality content" against the scammier practices. But yeah, I'm thinking I should just stop curating and caring one of these days....... :thinking emoji:
Still, I'm always advocating for education instead of punishment. It's just that who has the energy to keep educating over and over again, against the unending self-serving accounts who never cared to even think that every one can do our part to help lift the system instead of just expecting money to pop out of thin air every time they post.
Ah well. We'll keep trudging ahead how we can, I suppose.
^ That comment exchange in gif form :p
I have things to say, but I think I'll make a post about it later. Long story short, I feel your pain.
XD that gif
Im still fightingu! Just a bit more... uh, less enthusiastically than before, but still fightingu~