RE: continued discussion Atheist~Christian. How do you know? Gaslighting. Delusion. How many Jesuses?

Are you deliberately being slippery and dishonest?

So what if I were? It is neither good nor bad, moral or immoral, to be honest or dishonest. It just IS.

it's a common tactic with religious folk

So what?

That's why, if you care about truth, you should shun dishonesty in all its forms.

Please formulate this argument in syllogistic form. You're missing a premise.

Dishonesty will create smokescreens to obscure the truth

So what?
What is truth?

That's the answer. If, however, you only care about BEING PERCEIVED AS RIGHT,

Isn't it true that it is neither good nor bad, moral or immoral, to be honest or dishonest?

What's more important: truth or being seen to be right?

As far as I can tell, if atheism is true, neither. What is "importance"? How does one discover it?

At least the 8th time I've used BOLD paragraph

And I have asked you to prove the assertions in that paragraph, and you have ignored my challenges.

I have already explained how we use our senses

And I challenged your assertions, which challenges you have ignored.

How is it IMPOSSILBE for a 1st century writer to lie or embellish or create propaganda?

B/c if God has not spoken clearly, we can't actually know anything.

Nobody actually knows who 'Mark' is.

Proof please.
Also, please prove that you know what "knowledge" is. And that other people exist. Thanks.

how do you KNOW this anonymous writer got it right?

He isn't anonymous. His name is Mark.
And God spoke through Mark. It wasn't just some guy writing.

And I've seen and read it

Interesting. Have your senses ever deceived you and given you incorrect information? How do you know they didn't do so this time?

Do you think it exists?

If atheism is true, you haven't given me a reason to trust my senses, so I wouldn't say anyone can know anything, no.

so you think the Muslim prophet's visions were delusional, but not the Christian ones?

Correct. There are lots of underlying arguments, but you haven't asked me about them, so I'm just telling you my educated conclusion.

How do we tell the difference? What tests can we perform to KNOW who's just making it up?

Internal critique, the same as I've performed unto atheism. I know Islam is false in the same ways I know atheism is false. That is, both of them

are declared as false by the highest standard of truth and evidence in existence, which is the Word of God, and2)
suffer from fatal internal inconsistencies, being self-defeating in numerous very serious ways.

Please share these historical sources

Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

'Jesus of Nazareth' is a blooper, a mistranslation of 'Jesous o Nazoraios' (Greek) which actually translates to 'the one of the truth'.

If atheism is true, I don't see any reason to assume that "place" is a relevant concept, because I don't see any reason to assume that senses or brains are reliable, so...