In this post, reasons to use bots, timing strategy, and suggested amounts to send. Not in this post, lots of waffle and political stance regarding Bid-bots.
Are you a user? Just for recreational purposes eh? Or are you going cold-turkey? Or steering well clear of these pesky beasts? Love them or loath them, it seems the Bid-bots are here to stay, and new incarnations of a 'robot bidders' are appearing every couple of weeks at present.
There are generally two types of bid-bots. Ones that run on a 2.4 hour cycle and vote everyone who has sent money with a % of the total stake sent in the cycle. And those that will give you a vote almost instantly (or when next online/awake).
The variables on the size of the vote are your SBD contribution, the voting power of the bot, and in the case of the first type of bid-bot discussed above, the contributions of other users sending to the bot within the same voting window.
Why Bid-bot?
Although many are drawn to the Bid-bots for the extra payout potential, there are a couple of other reasons to consider using them. I would say the 3 main reasons/advantages for using vote boosting Bots are:
Cash: Time the memo correctly and send with the right stake and you will make a little
Promotion: Boost your post into 'Hot' for extra visibility
Reputation: The number in the circle next to your user id - warning, this may or may not equal 'actual' reputation as seen by Steemit.com members
For me, it's mainly about increasing percieved reputation, and moving that little number up next to @abh12345. Big votes from high rep whales are what move your reputation the most, and now there are so many more mouths to feed than last year, it's much harder to move up the rep ranks. What would you pay, to have a reputation of 70?
I would say the cash returned from Bit-bot investment makes them profitable, but not hugely. And post promotion is tough, even if you have timed the the Bots bang on and spent big. A bigger fish, or 5, will come along shortly and knock you post out the front page, even if your post is awesome.
Bid-bot tactics
There are various web-pages to check out the bids a bot has received and when the Bot is next due to vote on posts it's been sent. These are okkk, but I think another option is to check the 'comments' and 'wallet' of each bot - here you can find out if it's a good time to send them SBDs, and calculate how much you should be sending.
All out promotion
One approach could be to throw all the Bots SBDs as soon as your new blog appears. E.g. 5 to @minnowbooster, 10 to booster, 5 to photobomb, 5 to bellyrub, amn then the rest with lower amounts (as suggested later). If you've checked that @booster and @bellyrub have not 'commented' on a post for a few hours, they will be ready to vote in the next hour. It is possible to have all the above vote for your post in the first 20/30 minutes and send it to 'Hot' or 'Trending'. The negative here is that your blog may look 'cheap' or tacky with the comments section littered with Bots - I suspect this will put some potential voters off.
Additional votes later on
When your post is a few days old, it is likely to be recieving less hits and probably way down the list of your followers 'Home' page. Now could be the time to start adding the Bid-bot votes. The advantage here is that your comments section is not littered with auto-replies, and your votes will be able to gain more curation rewards due to the Bot votes following them.
Front-runners and 'Wallet' followers
Another potential bonus vote or is available on 2/3 of the bigger Bots. Some members of the community are using software to vote ahead of the bots, good for their curation rewards, and an addional vote for you. Check out https://steemit.com/@frontrunner for more details.
It's also possible to keep an eye on the Wallet of @booster and @bellyrub and 'frontrun' manually. Posts submitted to these bots with a 5-10-15 SBD sum might well be worth voting on, if the Bot hasn't got their first.
And now the Bid-bots
- @randowhale
Profile: Send 0.500 Steem/SBD - URL as Memo
Owner: @berniesanders
Steem Power: 21,181.289 STEEM (+349,899.635 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 0.5
Voting time: Immediately
Notes: Check to see if @randowhale is sleeping or awake before voting
More information: Rando announcement
- @booster
Profile: bids open every 2.4 hours. Ex: @Axe & @Bob both bid for the same voting batch. If @Axe bids 4 SBD and @Bob bids 2 SBD, @Axe will get 66.66% and @Bob 33% etc.
Owner: @blueorgy ?
Steem Power: 7,900.118 STEEM (+655,394.992 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 3 - 15
Voting time: Up to 2.4 hours
Notes: Check 'Comments' for previous vote, don't send money when Bot is commenting
More information: How to use @booster
- @bellyrub
Profile: Send 1 SBD or more to get a part of the pie. Issues contact @zeartul steemit.chat or discord
Owner: @zeartul
Steem Power: 1,790.003 STEEM (+448,298.398 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 3 - 10
Voting time: Up to 2.4 hours
Notes: Check 'Comments' for previous vote, don't send money when Bot is commenting
More information: How does @bellyrub work in detail
- @boomerang
Profile: Send SBD to bid for votes. Voting every 2.4 hours with 100%. 100% SBD-Payout to SP-delegators. Do you want to join us? Just delegate SP.
Owner:
Steem Power: 541.963 STEEM (+67,176.069 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 1 - 3
Voting time: Up to 2.4 hours
Notes: Check 'Comments' for previous vote, don't send money when Bot is commenting
More information: Boomerang White Paper
- @minnowhelper
Profile: bids open every 2.4 hours. Ex: @A & @B both bid for the same voting batch. If @A bids 4 SBD and @B bids 2 SBD, @A will get 66.66% and @B 33% etc.
Owner:
Steem Power: 2,104.353 STEEM (+45,448.399 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 1 - 3
Voting time: Up to 2.4 hours
Notes: Check 'Comments' for previous vote, don't send money when Bot is commenting
More information: @minnowhelper FAQ
- @minnowbooster
Profile: This is still Beta!
Owner:
Steem Power: 71,370.659 STEEM (+2,453,096.413 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 5 (5 SBD, 3 times a week is current limit)
Voting time: Instant
Notes:
More information: @minnowbooster bid limits
- @discordia
Profile: Vote Bot ONLINE : 2.4 hr bidding rounds, vote weight 0-100% at 100% power, 0.1 SBD suggested minimum bid, commenting disabled, no refunds , Hail Eris !
Owner: Eris? ha
Steem Power: 614.185 STEEM (+12,115.963 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 0.5 - 1
Voting time: Up to 1.2 hours (?)
Notes: Check 'Comments' for previous vote, don't send money when Bot is commenting
More information: [@discordia for the smaller investors](https://steemit.com/steemit/@steembusiness/steemvestment-opportunity-discordia-vote-bidding-bot-for-small-investors-incl-some-sweeteners
- @treeplanter
Profile: PLANT TREES AND GET PAID FOR IT! 0.1 – 0.5 STEEM/SBD to @treeplanter + link in memo = vote approx. 1.5 times your donation. $1 = TREE
Owner:
Steem Power: 541.650 STEEM (+9,051.356 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 0.1 - 0.3
Voting time: Up to 1.2 hours (?)
Notes:
More information: @personz / @treeplanter interiview
- @lovejuice
Owner: @aggroed
Profile: Lovejuice is best shared between 2 or more people rather than simply sprayed all over yourself.
Steem Power: 450.432 STEEM (+12,060.771 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 0.1 - 0.3
Voting time: Up to 1.2 hours (?)
Notes:
More information:
- @photobomb
Profile: Send SBD for matching upvote. Min to send: $1! Max to send: $15! All votes are manual, and human. I Comment, Upvote and Resteem your post.
Owner:
Steem Power: 276.885 STEEM (+128,812.642 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 2 - 5
Voting time: When owner is awake!
Notes: Check 'Comments' to see if owner is awake!
More information: @photobomb service details
- @nettybot
Profile: ** Public Vote Bid Bot ** Minimum bid: 0.100 SBD, Vote weight: 50%, Vote interval: 1.2 hours. Current SP: ~23k
Owner:
Steem Power: 1,682.509 STEEM (+12,137.188 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 0.1 - 0.3
Voting time: Up to 1.2 hours
Notes:
More information:
- @upgoater
Profile: Upgoat Good!
Owner:
Steem Power: 208.980 STEEM (+7,646.283 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 0.1 - 0.2
Voting time: Up to 1.2 hours (?)
Notes:
More information: Recent @upgoater publication
- @buildawhale
Profile: Bid at least 0.1 SBD and get a vote for 0%-100% with 100% voting power. Rounds last: 2.4 hours. All submissions considered for our Curation Digest
Owner:
Steem Power: 354.958 STEEM (+39,363.873 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 0.2 - 1
Voting time: Up to 2.4 hours
Notes:
More information:
- @khoa
Profile: SEND ANY AMOUNT TO GET AN UPVOTE EVERY 2.4HOURS
Owner: @dang007
Steem Power: 36,268.237 STEEM (+7,131.486 STEEM)
Suggested SBD to send: 0.2 - 1.5
Voting time: Up to 2.4 hours
Notes:
More information:
A few additional points
- Sometimes a Bot can fail to vote, when this has happened I've always received a refund (Thanks @zeartul, @booster team, @randowhale, and @minnowbooster admins)
- Sending bots to others posts can be a nice way to share the love if you don't have a lot of Steem Power
- Using bots may discourage others from Voting for your post
- If you are the owner of a Bot above, or one that isn't listed then let me know!
- Opinions, questions, and corrections are very welcome!
- Yes, I will be using all the bots above on this post :p
Thank you, @abh12345 for the useful post.
Upvoting bots are becoming more and more popular because they give little minnows a chance in this ocean. However, they have known side effects.
In fact, we are having a discussion here about another idea that can help minnows without the side effects of bots. We are suggestion a project where the author pays to get his/her post reviewed. It will be upvoted only if its quality wa high. Please, join us in the discussion if you'd like.
Thanks @sadekj
I will take a look :)
Very good post there are some bots I didn't even know about so thank you for the information
A pleasure, thanks for dropping by and for your comments :)
I don't use them. I do occasionally use tipu when my voting power is crap. The rest...I don't care for. Though this post broke them down nicely for me and actually know more now...at the end they are just used to boost yourself. Since I never even upvoted my content I doubt I will ever use them (time will tell).
Very honorable of you not to use them. I use them on each post, and daily on others posts :)
If you feel you have taken the time and effort on your own content, I don't think it's a bad thing to up-vote it.
You are a very honorable Steemian @atopy!
I get it. I do. I don't point fingers at people who self-upvote or boost. I just can't do it. It feels a bit....icky. Like posting on FB and giving yourself a like. Blah. While on some level it does state - I like my own content ...on some other level it also says I'm desperate. Since I'm not either....I don't do it. :D
So basically my brain gets it and it makes total sense but I let "feelings" rule out on that one. So nothing honorable there. :)
Some of your posts/drawings/artwork must have taken you hours - I think they are worthy of a personal max vote. If I was producing rubbish with little effort, I wouldn't feel right self up-voting.
I'm sure you will reach the stars in time :D
I like doing this :)
yeah....but you are obviously rewarding others ...i have no issues with that. That's great....but think self-boosting is still in the gray zone and you have to admit there is quite a lot who only use this for themselves. Actually following @holoz0r and his reports he drops by time to time...randowhale for example...
It is a touchy subject. My votes are worth cents. Now imagine my upvote was actually worth something. Would you still mind if I upvoted my post for 100$? :D Wouldn't you rather see I gave that to someone else?
And ty for the boost! Just seen it. :)
My pleasure ! :D
u forgot me.
I do apologise! I'll update the post later today 👍🏾😁
i m the owner of khoa.
ty @dang007 :)
can you make the text that is added to the comments the bot gives?
Discrete is nicer than '@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@'
Also you should do a nice intro post for the bot - look at the other bots and see what they are doing.
Thanks!
Wow, that is some really nice overview of them. Great work. But the best part is the title. You killed it. ;)
Thanks man 🏆
Nice image, is that for me!?
You been busy yesterday, looks like the power user vlogs are a hit! Sweet!
Yes, it is for you. You are now Steemy approved
I've been wanting to research all the bots but have been lazy about it. Now thanks to you I don't have to! thanks,
Glad to be of service dude! :D
You forgot one bot and its name is ☝️ tip! 0.3
Tip is certainly worth a mention! Thank you!
I guess i should also mention @originalworks too!
I mean there are so Many. You definitely did a good job summarizing them.
Cheers @dandesign86 👌🏽
I am just using bots so that I can increase reputation so that my posts are taken more seriously. Although it helps to get your post on the hot section by using bots but I have observed that less whales will vote for you if you are using a bot, so the best way to use bots is to get them to vote late on your posts and not right away!
Yes the delay makes sense, and same regarding the rep boost. Thanks for commenting 😁
A great breakdown of the bots available buddy.
Nice work.
Thanks @tremendospercy, hopefully some will find the info useful!
Thanks for the break down on how all those work... some of them I haven't even heard of... some of them I use but I do hate the way they clutter up my posts...
Cheers Dave
@discordia is the quiet one, not much SP but worth a small sum I think.
Thanks a lot for your information. Continue posting that kind of material.
My pleasure, thanks for your comments!
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great post
very much out of date now but thanks for saying so!
yea old info but still informative for users that don't fully understand the bid bots, thanks
tip!
Thanks @nickfost! :D
#NOMORE of those for me!!!
Is this a new anti-bot tag?
Shame on me :(
Hahhaa! Nooo I'm just too lazy to follow up on them and refuse to make bots rich 😳
One of the bots is @aggroed's - I wouldn't mind if he became rich, i think he'd give it all away!
Great post. Lots of times, I like waiting at least a half hour, or even the next day or so, before I start giving my posts a boost with bidbots so I can give the majority of curation rewards to those that support me.
Yes I think that's a good reason to wait with the Bots. Thanks for dropping by @karencarrens :D
Thank you for the mention! This is a very informative post. As far as I know, @berniesanders is the owner of @randowhale.
PS. What do you think of my service? DO you think it is a good deal for the things you get? Let me know.
Upvoted and Resteemed!
Thanks for the information!
Yes I think it's fine overall. It would be good to know when you are online - maybe an update to your profile each change in status, like rando?
Thank you, is a very complete post with interesting information, especially the recommendations for those who still try to handle it.
Thank you @sol25 - good luck !
Interesting post.. Not heard of some of those.
Still trying to grasp how the curation works with timing/voting
Thanks @dune69
Curation rewards will be very small with less than 3-5000 Steem Power.
I recommend voting at 25-30 for best reward.
I guess it still works out at tenths of a penny for a minnow
0.001 is standard reward for my curation efforts - less than 0.001 isn't rewarded :)
Great post @abh12345 - There are a few here I haven't tried out yet. I've had a little success with a couple of the bid bots, but one has to wonder if some are using bots to track and place bids at the most opportune times - bots on bots on bots :/
Cheers @steemmeupscotty!
Yes these bots/accounts are front-running the bots to gain extra curation. Interesting game with that, but we need manual curation and articles to keep us from turning into a community of roBots!
True - I see it in the internal market here on steemit too - someone's always holding 140 steem and adjusting price accordingly :/
Great compilation !
Really informative !!
Thank you @akkha!
You are welcome @abh12345 !
So that's a great overview! Thanks a lot! I have read a lot about robots but this one gave me new information again. I.e. About front runners and all the details of the bots. Also the Tipps about the timing help a lot!
Thank you @sonci, I'm glad you found the post useful :)
nice and useful list
Thank you @bearbear613, I'm glad you found the post useful!
This information is very useful to me because bot are very important to improve my ability to use Steemit. Thank you. Pls follow and upvote.
Thank you @dsatria, I'm glad you found the post useful :)
Thank you @pixresteemer!
Pleasure mine... a very usefull post, thanks!
Great job on listing all the available bid-bots, the list has been growing so quickly. They are definitely becoming part of the normal here on steemit.
Thanks @silvernova!
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Nice post. @boomerang has now around 67500 SP.
Thanks! Updated :D
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