I know I don't know. That's why I said 'I think...'
Are you suggesting that the people protesting against eating animal products, in public, drawing attention to themselves, should be immune from protest? Who gets to decide?
What if he were just eating a box chicken nuggets instead of a rabbit? As far as I could see he was eating some lunch, in public, raising awareness, similar to what your guys were doing. If they are just 1%, what fraction of a % do you think he represents? He's surely an even smaller minority in this day and age.
He's a part of the 99%.
I don't think he is part of the 99% (unless you mean just because he consumes animal products). Not many meat eaters consume raw meat, nor do they take action against organisations that threaten their way of life.
I think he is standing up against veganism because the spread of veganism is threatening his (and many others') way of life. He's defending what he cares about in the same way vegan activists do.
Would you like it if organisations were trying to prevent you from eating the food that makes you feel healthy? I understand your compassion for animals and can sympathise with that. The way you're going about it is underhanded though.
He doesn't attack vegans or try to censor them. He shares relevant information. He states his case, discusses scientific studies and shares his opinion. You are trying to silence someone who is protecting a way of life.
Veganism is not a way of life or a diet. It's the highest ethical standard known to mankind adopted by only 1% of people. The rest doesn't care about ethics when it comes to other species (that's speciesism, discrimination based on biological differences).
He's on a raw meat diet, it has nothing to do with his ethical standards, therefore, he's not a minority.
People follow the vegan way of life for a spectrum of reasons, not just because of ethics. Have you considered that people care about different things, have different priorities? They care about things too with as much passion as you have for your cause. It makes their cause no less valid.
You believe yours is the highest ethical standard but there are disagreements. Your way kills lots of small animals and destroys habitats for wildlife. Your way uses a lot of chemicals. Your way produces pollution (you need to ship your food from all over the world to maintain a balanced vegan diet)... There are pros and cons on all sides.
I can't speak for his ethics. Why not ask him? Wouldn't it make more sense to discuss things sensibly rather than throw flags around?
Speciesism. Lots of animal species. Lots of plant species. Insects. Fungi. Where do you draw the line at?
I said that veganism is not a way of life.
If they don't care about ethics, they are not vegan. They are just eating a plant-based diet.
Really? You're gonna tell me eating grain can be ethically compared to eating animal products?
I won't talk to him.
The line is drawn where the line for pain is. Species with no nervous systems don't feel pain, therefore you can't hurt them by eating them.
Ok, so in your opinion, veganism is some sort of spiritual calling, the highest ethical practice. It reminds me of religions when they splinter into sub-sections. All pretty much doing the same thing, but arguing with each other about the details.
I was an 'ethical' vegan twice (vegetarian for 17 years too). I want to cause as little harm as possible. Eventually, for reasons I won't bore you with, I stopped. Now I eat meat. I don't like that animals die but I choose to buy where I know the animals live good lives, are fed their natural diet, and they are slaughtered humanely (as humanely as possible).
You know that many vegan crops are sprayed with chemicals to kill insects and other 'pests'. During harvesting, countless small animals are chewed up in their combine harvesters. I can't imagine their deaths are pleasant. Also, the soil needs to be fertilised. To do this, grain and vegetable farmers buy and transport tonnes of faeces from factory farms (those animals that suffer an awful existence). You may not be exploiting the animals for their flesh, but your food supplier uses them too. That's if you buy your food from shops or supermarkets or markets.
A bowl of cornflakes may look harmless on the surface. But when you dig behind Big Food and Big Pharma, you see they're all holding hands in the background.
Lots of beings feel pain. There's loads of science online where you can check it out. Even plants have been demonstrated to react to injuries.
I can't argue you if you think you were an ethical vegan. Bye