problem with those trials is the Nazi officer's were forced to sign prepared confessions after being tortured or threatened with torture. Interviews and documents i've seen suggest, it was literally, "sign this or we'll crush your genitals" but i will check out the site. i want all sides of the story. it will take some time to go through it. although i'm immediately suspicious of the 12 million claim since it's already been proven the 6 million and 4 million claims were false. I mean come on, they literally "doubled down" on the original claim of 6 million dying in the holocaust. And don't even get me started on the repeated use of the number 6 million in all sorts of newspapers starting as early as 1900.
Always the same. The door. Those newspapers... I'm sorry but, is that how you "research?" Did you for instance read those newspapers, or just watch that ridiculous video of the guy reading the headlines? How many Jews were in eastern and also western Europe before the war? What round number would you use to describe/estimate 5,789,546, or say 6,246,890 people in a region who were under threat for years?
Court transcripts are a "little" more significant and detail filled than your signed confessions rumors. Poor Nazi's were threatened? Maybe, but prove it... While in prison after the war, were the Nazi's also forced to fly spy planes over their own camps to get all the photos they have of them, or are those years worth of American/Russian photos? The transcripts, Mein Kampf, and all those devil's speeches (which they were NOT forced to give under threat,) tell the truth, the full, America, England, France hating, Jew hating, black hating, Gypsy, gay, handicapped hating truth...
Not to mention all the other resources on the site and others like it, like hundreds of VIDEOS/photos of MASS KILLINGS, orders, maps, plans, photos, receipts, IBM punch cards for individuals that show (some of those who) were killed, and why. Those tattoo'ed numbers on every older Jew from Europe were either made up, or correspond to something right? Ya, the official Nazi records... Call IBM who ran their punch card computers if you don't believe me.
12-18 million is the total number of holocaust victims, 6 of whom were Jews. No one is "doubling down." You either read too fast, or did not understand the reference that quote was making. There is no conspiracy to double down for you to be suspicious of. Why don't you add up all those who were rounded up, usually by the invaded governments, not Germany per se, then turned over and shipped off by the Nazi's. How many did Vichy France round up, how many from Poland, etc.
Simply, the "claims" of 6 million have not been proven untrue. It is the best estimate from all known resources. Yad Vashem has testimonials/files/photos on/of about 4.5 million of those individual victims. Call Yad Vashem and ask how their system works... You have watched some lying garbage if you think this is all false. You can for instance see what the Red Cross thinks of it's figures being manipulated by searching accordingly.
Regardless, if you're just doing this for truth, there should only be one answer if I asked you to tell us how many Jews and others is it ok for the Nazi's to have used as slaves, or to have killed?
It's always the same for a reason. The official story has large gaping holes in it.
I have done many searches for the newspapers themselves, here's for starters
I would love if you can prove this video is a fake, I encourage you to do so and immediately share that information but the listed source is the library of congress so good luck
As for "the door", well holy crap man do you know anything about gas chambers and what would happen if a bunch of people were slowly gassed to death in a process that took anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour and a half depending on who you listen to? Number one, a door that opens in like the door on the so called gas chamber couldn't be opened due to all the now dead people on the inside desperately trying to get out once the gassing started, not to mention the plate glass window in the door that could very easily be broken by the people on the inside and then the fact that door isn't sealed and then the fact that the holes where the zyklon b was supposedly dropped through are very clearly after the fact constructions and have nothing in common with the exceptional german engineering the Germans are known for. Then there's army MD's Like Russel Barton with his eyewitness report of the first allied forces into Bergen Belsen
That said the first thing it says on http://www.nizkor.org right below "The Nizkor Project" is and I quote "Dedicated to the 12 million Holocaust victims who suffered and died at the hands of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi Regime"
Now last time I checked the holocaust referred specifically to the attempted extermination of all Jews however they list a number of extended versions of what that term means so even they can't agree what it means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
How many japanese was it ok for the americans to round up and kill if they tried to escape during the war? How many russians and germans and polish was it ok for the russians to round up and send to gulags to work themselves to death under order by Stalin, or to be murdered immediately upon return if they refused to fight or were even captured by the germans? Upon return home all russian POW's were sent to gulags or executed and their families were sent to the gulags as well. How many germans was it ok for the russian and american troops to rape and murder as they overran german territory fueled by the lies of Sefton Delmer (8-88 was the rule on who you could rape) and other "black propagandists" like him? How many native americans was it ok for the american soldiers and settlers to murder as they stole their land? How many Palestinians is it ok for the Israelis to execute deport and starve to death as they steal there land in occupied Palestine?
Shall I go on?
Do you see how ridiculous your question is when you look at all the facts that aren't shoved down our throats on a daily basis by a never ending stream of memorials and testimonies most of which all say the same thing "someone TOLD me they were all gassed". Remember the holocaust, remember the holocaust............the only thing that even comes close these days is remember 9/11.
The door did not have a "plate glass window" as you have been told, but a tiny, (what appears to be glass) peephole, and with a wire cage around it. (Notice we are talking, all this fuss, about 1 door, in over 300 murder camps across Europe...)
Two; no one "told me they were all gassed." Nor is that the claim. Gassing, burning, starvation, exposure, overworking, experiments, shooting, beating, etc. was the reality.
You can spend your time on 1 apparent data-point, or even 10, while ignoring the other millions, like with the lie you've been told about a door and window. Meanwhile, here is just some of the proof from the US Navy Dept. If you want...
May the victims of the Nazis be elevated, and their memory help us to forever build a better, more equitable, and peaceful world...
thanks for all the video's showing piles of dead people with no proof of who they are or the context in which the filming was actually done. we know our own government loves to make propaganda films and they're good at because they have been doing it for a while. That narrator can say whatever he wants because there will never be anyone to contest him. It is well known professional directors were sent in to make anti-nazi propaganda while also hiding the fact that most of the deaths were due to the allied attacks, people like Alfred Hitchcock and billy Wilder. good luck proving those are all jews and that they weren't killed during the british and american fire bombing raids, or eisenhower's camps for the germans were they just let them starve, or the millions raped and murdered by the russians as they ran through with the support of the united states. The british especially destroyed not only civilian cities and labor camps but also all german supply lines effectively starving EVERYONE including civilian prisoners to death or dooming them to die from typhus since there was now no possibility of medical care and little to no hygiene.
It is you my friend who zero in on one or 10 points whereas I am looking at all points from an objective point of view with no stake in what truth i find. you obviously didn't watch anything i posted and you completely overlooked my point about all the other atrocities that get no special attention and certainly aren't protected by law or get a special anti-russian or anti-japanese or anti-native american shield.
also the little glass peephole you're referring to was on a gas chamber designed for delousing clothes and has been admitted by jewish authorities to NEVER have been used to gas people. you're so trapped by your own lie, you can't see because you don't want to be cause it would mean admitting you are wrong and for whatever reason you are incapable of doing that. And I didn't HEAR about the window i SAW it on videos of official auschwitz tours, photograph after photograph in context with detailed descriptions of where everything is. I also SAW your peephole, i didn't just read about. Things you can look up and verify through independent and even establishment sources. I don't just read stuff and go "oh that must be true" GOOD GRIEF MAN WATCH THE VIDEO's I POSTED.
you see you give me blatant establishment propaganda, and i give you independent journalism, interviews with eyewitnesses, and real forensic investigations. that's how i know i'm seeking the truth and you're just regurgitating official narratives pounded into to you by establishment institutions.
you may now proceed with calling me names and telling me about how stupid nazi liberals like me have no idea what we're talking about.
Incidentally I no longer subscribe to identity politics so i'm none of those things.
OK well at this point, I have so much more information to go through but everything so far just comes off as complete propaganda with very few original sources linked like in the case of the NSWPP spam which it turns out were only 3 e-mails and so far i can't even verify that they called themselves the White People's Party and aside from calling the jews hysterical (which I agree they do not sound "hysterical or filled with hatred" in their replies) there's nothing inflammatory about the emails. They simply call attention to other sources of information.
So then i thought ok the big thing for me is the Leuchter Report, so let's see what they have to say about him. Right now I am reading the "Technical Aspects Of The Holocaust" by Brian Harmon and just from memory already i can pretty much tare that entire report to shreds point by point and i most likely will in a future post so look forward to it.
Right now I feel like you sent me to a site full of information that you yourself have not investigated at all.
Am I wrong?
Have you fact checked this site at all or did you take it at face value, or are you secretly trying to help me by showing me the quite outrageous and impossible to believe propaganda presented on the website http://www.nizkor.org ?
I assure you, I am going to keep reading. This site is a gold mine of easily disputed lies and ridiculously lame attempts to discredit legitimate research into the subject especially when one has taken the time to fully review and fact check the research they are talking about.
problem with those trials is the Nazi officer's were forced to sign prepared confessions after being tortured or threatened with torture. Interviews and documents i've seen suggest, it was literally, "sign this or we'll crush your genitals" but i will check out the site. i want all sides of the story. it will take some time to go through it. although i'm immediately suspicious of the 12 million claim since it's already been proven the 6 million and 4 million claims were false. I mean come on, they literally "doubled down" on the original claim of 6 million dying in the holocaust. And don't even get me started on the repeated use of the number 6 million in all sorts of newspapers starting as early as 1900.
Always the same. The door. Those newspapers... I'm sorry but, is that how you "research?" Did you for instance read those newspapers, or just watch that ridiculous video of the guy reading the headlines? How many Jews were in eastern and also western Europe before the war? What round number would you use to describe/estimate 5,789,546, or say 6,246,890 people in a region who were under threat for years?
Court transcripts are a "little" more significant and detail filled than your signed confessions rumors. Poor Nazi's were threatened? Maybe, but prove it... While in prison after the war, were the Nazi's also forced to fly spy planes over their own camps to get all the photos they have of them, or are those years worth of American/Russian photos? The transcripts, Mein Kampf, and all those devil's speeches (which they were NOT forced to give under threat,) tell the truth, the full, America, England, France hating, Jew hating, black hating, Gypsy, gay, handicapped hating truth...
Not to mention all the other resources on the site and others like it, like hundreds of VIDEOS/photos of MASS KILLINGS, orders, maps, plans, photos, receipts, IBM punch cards for individuals that show (some of those who) were killed, and why. Those tattoo'ed numbers on every older Jew from Europe were either made up, or correspond to something right? Ya, the official Nazi records... Call IBM who ran their punch card computers if you don't believe me.
12-18 million is the total number of holocaust victims, 6 of whom were Jews. No one is "doubling down." You either read too fast, or did not understand the reference that quote was making. There is no conspiracy to double down for you to be suspicious of. Why don't you add up all those who were rounded up, usually by the invaded governments, not Germany per se, then turned over and shipped off by the Nazi's. How many did Vichy France round up, how many from Poland, etc.
Simply, the "claims" of 6 million have not been proven untrue. It is the best estimate from all known resources. Yad Vashem has testimonials/files/photos on/of about 4.5 million of those individual victims. Call Yad Vashem and ask how their system works... You have watched some lying garbage if you think this is all false. You can for instance see what the Red Cross thinks of it's figures being manipulated by searching accordingly.
Regardless, if you're just doing this for truth, there should only be one answer if I asked you to tell us how many Jews and others is it ok for the Nazi's to have used as slaves, or to have killed?
It's always the same for a reason. The official story has large gaping holes in it.
I have done many searches for the newspapers themselves, here's for starters
I would love if you can prove this video is a fake, I encourage you to do so and immediately share that information but the listed source is the library of congress so good luck
As for "the door", well holy crap man do you know anything about gas chambers and what would happen if a bunch of people were slowly gassed to death in a process that took anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour and a half depending on who you listen to? Number one, a door that opens in like the door on the so called gas chamber couldn't be opened due to all the now dead people on the inside desperately trying to get out once the gassing started, not to mention the plate glass window in the door that could very easily be broken by the people on the inside and then the fact that door isn't sealed and then the fact that the holes where the zyklon b was supposedly dropped through are very clearly after the fact constructions and have nothing in common with the exceptional german engineering the Germans are known for. Then there's army MD's Like Russel Barton with his eyewitness report of the first allied forces into Bergen Belsen
That said the first thing it says on http://www.nizkor.org right below "The Nizkor Project" is and I quote "Dedicated to the 12 million Holocaust victims who suffered and died at the hands of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi Regime"
Now last time I checked the holocaust referred specifically to the attempted extermination of all Jews however they list a number of extended versions of what that term means so even they can't agree what it means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
How many japanese was it ok for the americans to round up and kill if they tried to escape during the war? How many russians and germans and polish was it ok for the russians to round up and send to gulags to work themselves to death under order by Stalin, or to be murdered immediately upon return if they refused to fight or were even captured by the germans? Upon return home all russian POW's were sent to gulags or executed and their families were sent to the gulags as well. How many germans was it ok for the russian and american troops to rape and murder as they overran german territory fueled by the lies of Sefton Delmer (8-88 was the rule on who you could rape) and other "black propagandists" like him? How many native americans was it ok for the american soldiers and settlers to murder as they stole their land? How many Palestinians is it ok for the Israelis to execute deport and starve to death as they steal there land in occupied Palestine?
Shall I go on?
Do you see how ridiculous your question is when you look at all the facts that aren't shoved down our throats on a daily basis by a never ending stream of memorials and testimonies most of which all say the same thing "someone TOLD me they were all gassed". Remember the holocaust, remember the holocaust............the only thing that even comes close these days is remember 9/11.
Two things:
The door did not have a "plate glass window" as you have been told, but a tiny, (what appears to be glass) peephole, and with a wire cage around it. (Notice we are talking, all this fuss, about 1 door, in over 300 murder camps across Europe...)
Two; no one "told me they were all gassed." Nor is that the claim. Gassing, burning, starvation, exposure, overworking, experiments, shooting, beating, etc. was the reality.
You can spend your time on 1 apparent data-point, or even 10, while ignoring the other millions, like with the lie you've been told about a door and window. Meanwhile, here is just some of the proof from the US Navy Dept. If you want...
May the victims of the Nazis be elevated, and their memory help us to forever build a better, more equitable, and peaceful world...
thanks for all the video's showing piles of dead people with no proof of who they are or the context in which the filming was actually done. we know our own government loves to make propaganda films and they're good at because they have been doing it for a while. That narrator can say whatever he wants because there will never be anyone to contest him. It is well known professional directors were sent in to make anti-nazi propaganda while also hiding the fact that most of the deaths were due to the allied attacks, people like Alfred Hitchcock and billy Wilder. good luck proving those are all jews and that they weren't killed during the british and american fire bombing raids, or eisenhower's camps for the germans were they just let them starve, or the millions raped and murdered by the russians as they ran through with the support of the united states. The british especially destroyed not only civilian cities and labor camps but also all german supply lines effectively starving EVERYONE including civilian prisoners to death or dooming them to die from typhus since there was now no possibility of medical care and little to no hygiene.
It is you my friend who zero in on one or 10 points whereas I am looking at all points from an objective point of view with no stake in what truth i find. you obviously didn't watch anything i posted and you completely overlooked my point about all the other atrocities that get no special attention and certainly aren't protected by law or get a special anti-russian or anti-japanese or anti-native american shield.
also the little glass peephole you're referring to was on a gas chamber designed for delousing clothes and has been admitted by jewish authorities to NEVER have been used to gas people. you're so trapped by your own lie, you can't see because you don't want to be cause it would mean admitting you are wrong and for whatever reason you are incapable of doing that. And I didn't HEAR about the window i SAW it on videos of official auschwitz tours, photograph after photograph in context with detailed descriptions of where everything is. I also SAW your peephole, i didn't just read about. Things you can look up and verify through independent and even establishment sources. I don't just read stuff and go "oh that must be true" GOOD GRIEF MAN WATCH THE VIDEO's I POSTED.
you see you give me blatant establishment propaganda, and i give you independent journalism, interviews with eyewitnesses, and real forensic investigations. that's how i know i'm seeking the truth and you're just regurgitating official narratives pounded into to you by establishment institutions.
you may now proceed with calling me names and telling me about how stupid nazi liberals like me have no idea what we're talking about.
Incidentally I no longer subscribe to identity politics so i'm none of those things.
Here's another video filled with verifiable facts
OK well at this point, I have so much more information to go through but everything so far just comes off as complete propaganda with very few original sources linked like in the case of the NSWPP spam which it turns out were only 3 e-mails and so far i can't even verify that they called themselves the White People's Party and aside from calling the jews hysterical (which I agree they do not sound "hysterical or filled with hatred" in their replies) there's nothing inflammatory about the emails. They simply call attention to other sources of information.
So then i thought ok the big thing for me is the Leuchter Report, so let's see what they have to say about him. Right now I am reading the "Technical Aspects Of The Holocaust" by Brian Harmon and just from memory already i can pretty much tare that entire report to shreds point by point and i most likely will in a future post so look forward to it.
Right now I feel like you sent me to a site full of information that you yourself have not investigated at all.
Am I wrong?
Have you fact checked this site at all or did you take it at face value, or are you secretly trying to help me by showing me the quite outrageous and impossible to believe propaganda presented on the website http://www.nizkor.org ?
I assure you, I am going to keep reading. This site is a gold mine of easily disputed lies and ridiculously lame attempts to discredit legitimate research into the subject especially when one has taken the time to fully review and fact check the research they are talking about.