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Aint that the truth!

there is no other animal that doesn't also follow the same principles though (is there?).

Which leads to a logical conclusion it is not conditioning, but the natural order of things?

Maybe that is why we are having a hard time with it - we are trying for something different ....??

If mind control is a thing & it's being used That's conditioning.

I'm saying that the premise that 'rule by force' is not exclusive to humans - it throughout nature...

ergo it might be manipulation, yes, but not conditioning...we have it in our genes already, is my point.