There is a big difference between building a barrier and executing people. I haven't seen any pro-fence people propose killing the invaders.
It's funny that you should have an image taken in Mission, Texas. I live in Mission, Texas. We're not all torn up about the fence. It's mostly a few activists who call the press, do a photo op, and then go home. I think overall, the Border Patrol is doing more humanitarian work than the activists.
Just because you havent seen it doesnt mean it doesnt happen. Theres been a few kids murdered already.
Calling human beings "invaders" is quite disgusting, to be honest. You have no more right to your land than they do. We're all humans.
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The Border Patrol more often saves people from getting raped and murdered.
The cartels and coyotes have absolutely no regard for these people beyond profit.
Our fire department frequently has to pull drowned people out of the river. Imagine the disregard for child safety you have to have as a parent to make your kid cross the river, which in Mexico is called Rio Bravo (wild river). And to do this with the assistance of criminals who would just as soon abandon you if you get in trouble?
Once they cross over, if they’re successful, is not the end of it. They still have to trek for many miles through brush and ranch land to get beyond the check points. Many more die of exposure and dehydration. The Border Patrol often rescues those as well.
The Border Patrol has no interest in murdering anybody. They wouldn’t bother saving so many people if they merely meant to murder them.
The crisis we do face here on the Border is a humanitarian crisis. We don’t have the resources, the Border Patrol doesn’t have the resources either, to provide the necessary food, shelter, and medical care for the number of people coming over. It’s tragic that people die in custody. However, compared to the number of people who are alive today thanks to our border protection, it is hardly a death factory.
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Have you ever seen the stacks and boxes of expired food that they dump at super markets? "We dont have the resources" my asshole. You dont want to help and you dont care enough to find out basics on how we can. You work your way down from "cant" rather than working your way up from "should".
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Grocery stores here don't dump food. They donate it to the Food Bank, unless it really is not fit for eating. Grocery stores also have drives for donations to help the Food Bank buy food in bulk from distributors.
In my experience, the "should" people typically want somebody else to do the work. The basics are money and time. Either you provide money to the effort, or provide your labor. Otherwise, you're not really doing anything either. Just all talk.
I'm telling you that the work is being done. Many great people are doing their best to deal with the crisis. Yes, bad things happen. Worse things could have happened if there weren't already people doing what you think they "should". They don't just talk. They're doing it. They have been doing it for years. We have had the problem for decades. We are kind of pros at what you think we "should" do .
But the trump administration is specifically doing things to make the situation worse. They're actively making an effort to hurt people at the border and even want to try to destroy the entire mexican economy for some reason.
Just because a few border agents are cool guys doesnt mean the system isnt rotten to the core.
Supermarkets are one example. Another would be luxury condos and golden crusted pizza pies.
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I didnt hear english until almost Dallas coming back from Acuna/del rio.
In del rio even the whites spoke spanish.
In San Antonio i saw organized groups moving.
Still in spanish.
If 100k's are coming in, somebody is helping them.
And good on them.
I've lived in mexico for more than 3 years.
If you don't have it made, life is tough.
I know tamilipas is less forgiving than some other places.
Tampico was nice, to visit, but dangerous, for some.
News has to sell to stay in business.
I take sources with that grain of salt.
Was the story otherwise accurate, in your opinion?
There is nothing overtly false. About the people and the exhumation of their ancestors. There is the opinion part, however, that seems over the top.
Two things about the post. First, I do live on the border. You can Google Madero, Texas to see where I live. Many people here do support a border wall. Second, none of us, from the people living here all the way up to the President, have ever suggested chopping off people’s heads. We just want to stop or significantly slow down the crossings, not kill them. Your opinion aims to make us wall supporters into monsters who deserve to be hated. We don’t want dead immigrants. We just don’t want them and the problems they bring here with us.
One minor issue with the comment. Many of us in the border states are of Mexican descent. We speak Spanish at home and in public. That doesn’t mean that we are in support of an open border. Our families have come over legally. It may seem like we are Mexican. However, we are Americans who speak Spanish. It is very helpful in day to day business. You couldn’t distinguish a citizen from an immigrant just by hearing Spanish, unless you are able to distinguish accents.
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I should hope not.
However, there is a large percentage of the population that drink many flavors of koolaid.
Do you doubt that these folks exist?
Those drunk on the power their illusionary worldview provides them?
These are the people warned against.
Walls may be the only way to control this prison planet.
Asking nicely hasn't worked, so far.
But, isnt the soulution to make the world hospitable to anyone living anywhere?
Better we manage things by improving the situation where the immigrants originate, imo.
My plan is to move there and employ my neighbors.
Can you understand how simply making that statement makes doublespeak of calling yourself free?
If you must ask permission, you are property of those to whom you kneel.
There is no such thing as govt, simply an organized, armed group of men and women that force perfect strangers to pay and obey.
I agree that “Better we manage things by improving the situation where the immigrants originate, imo. My plan is to move there and employ my neighbors.” I don’t mean that in a duplicitous or sarcastic way. These countries lack the ability to do what we have here without some assistance.
There is no way that uncontrollable immigration will solve their problems.
Presumably, many of these immigrants are risking their lives to come to the U. S. for a better life. Otherwise, why bother.
Along with a better life, comes a new way of living, a new way of thinking, assimilation to the culture that makes this country desirable.
If, on the other hand, they come here and contribute the culture of corruption and dysfunction that made their home a place to flee, then they are no better off than if they had stayed home.
We can assimilate small chunks of people into our way of life so that they and we can prosper together.
However, if they come in too large quantities, it is more likely we will become like them.
You seem to think Mexicans are wonderful people. They can be. I have lived in the U.S. and in Mexico. I am of Mexican heritage. There are many great things about the culture. However, if you take off your rose-colored glasses, you will also see the dark side of the culture. Corruption and bribery are common and accepted. Mexicans think these are bad, however, bribery and corruption are always an option because “that’s how things are done”.
It’s not just Mexicans. They are just an example. People fleeing a country bring with them psychological and cultural dysfunctions that made their country an undesirable place to live. These things take time to unlearn. You can’t just dump millions of them in a new country and expect that they will automatically know how to succeed. Many of us Mexican-Americans still live in poverty and struggle to live up to the American dream. It isn’t as simple as simply changing your address.
This is why I agree that well-intentioned people like yourself move to those countries and teach the people there what habits and ways of thinking can transform their own countries into a place where people are happy to stay or foreigners want to emigrate. Make it hospitable to live there so that they do not have to suffer the journey and separation from their loved ones. Help them elevate themselves at home rather than encouraging them to move here to live like second-class citizens. It is evil to encourage people to break the law and live in this country like slave labor. I think you have a good heart. However, your ideas are inconsiderate of the suffering they will endure and the cost to society to convert them, not even them, convert their grandchildren into functioning Americans.
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I've paid transito bribes.
I tried to negotiate them down, they could see i didn't have much, some did lower their price.
None of them took me to jail for no license, insurance, junky rv, or pulling two carnival rides in tandem.
Try that north of the border and see how far you get before you are putting your shoelaces back into your shoes and walking home.
They play the same game down there that we play up here, except with less money and with a population that knows all of the armed gangs are enemies of the gente.
Viva, Magon!
That said, I've also lived in Acapulco and read the newspapers.
The vecinos said, 'Meh, they were bad people.'
So, yes, once you have a bad rep there are likely to be problems.
Thereby increasing the numbers of criminals moving north.
I agree, we have to free ourselves before we can free others.
Are we free when everything we do only increases the resources of our oppressors?
Once we are free, the world will truly become one big, blue, marble, imo.