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RE: Washington's Measle Outbreak and Vaccinations

in #busy6 years ago

I also find it amazing how many people rally for Freedom of Medical Decisions for women but want to deny parents options in vaccinations. Seems like an obvious disconnect to me.

I disagree completely. This assumes that making the private decision not to have a vaccine only impose the risks associated onto the private person making that decision. However, with the way herd immunity works, once a sufficient number of individuals choose not to take the vaccine, the risk is imposed also on people they surround themselves with.

I support any individual's right to make decisions that affect their own wellbeing etc. I do not support anyone's "right" to make decisions that impose a cost, risk or damage on me or their neighbors. To state it as clearly as I can: If anyone were to tell me that they refuse to vaccinate themselves or their children for whatever reason they may have, I judge them the exact same way as I would someone who says that they will drunk-drive in an area they know other people's children are playing. Both impose a risk on other people, and their children, for a silly reason.

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Well, that is an interesting and entitled point of view. It is very clear there are still many question about the effectiveness of vaccinations.

I feel quite strongly that I am not a "herd animal", but a free human being. If you would like a better, safer "herd" I suggest you ask the manufacturer to make a better product.

Nearly everything we do from having a cocktail to sexual activity can have an impact on Human Safety. I respect you, but I do not respect the argument at all. Sounds like something you have been fed and believed without question.

Nearly everything we do from having a cocktail to sexual activity can have an impact on Human Safety.

Again, those acts would only imply a risk on the individual(s) choosing to drink/have unsafe sex etc. I do think that individuals should be able to make such decisions without a nanny-state regulating what you and I can do to ourselves or together with others who choose to participate. But the moral changes the moment the damage is not done to you, but to others around you.

Society does not owe you immunity or safety.

I never implied that. But if I belong to a community who have chosen to invest in obtaining immunity and safety for ourselves, and someone else poses a direct threat to it, then that is a form of vandalism. My conclusion would be that the others should either find another community to go to, or respect the scientific, medical and financial effort made by our community that they wish to be a part of.

I'm sure you are aware that there are no studies of our current vaccination schedule and I certainly hope that as someone who has an understanding of Science and the process involved that you aren't asking for a society that isn't even allowed to review and question that data.

That would be very unscientific.