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Well, he's not powering down. So if self-voting is an incentive for him to stay powered up, as opposed to dumping all the time, I'd say let's go self-voting.

I don’t get this logic at all. Rent-keeping is so oldsteem - we want these accounts out, no matter what price STEEM has to go before a reversal.

What ideas do you have?

If you apply that logic to all other large accounts what do you believe would happen? Do you believe it would add value to steem?

Personally I think automated post's that have little to no value should not make you one of the 20 top earners.

yeah. Well I guess as we work down the list of priorities we might get there.

Considering you upvoted @schattenjaeger should I assume that means you are of the same opinion?

I have mixed feelings about it, I think if you don't like it you should downvote it.

I don't care about whether or not it is automated, I guess my question would be who is getting value from it.

I agree in certain situations automated posts are needed and informative. In most cases that can be subjective so it is hard to call.

I disagree that is the case this time. The posts receive zero engagement from the community. With 5 minutes of research it quickly becomes clear to see that those post's hold zero value and are just a remnant from #oldsteem.

I just figured the whole attitude of do whatever you like with your stake was a dying one.

If you disagree with @haejin doing so then why would it be appropriate for someone else. In the list of priorities you speak of this is a situation which could be stopped quite easily. It would not take more than 3 or 4 decent sized accounts to combat it and the downvotes are free.

A saying I hear often pops to mind. "Why put off something until tomorrow if you can do it today".

You asking me to downvote it is a drop in the Ocean. Would make less than a 1% difference. I would gladly contribute to doing so

. This is a direct quote from you:

"While many love to talk about retention, we do not want to retain every user. We want to retain the best, the most talented, those who bring good energy, and some will fall away."

You can see where I am going with that right?

Yeah, I actually agree with all of your points above.

I meant in general we have to work on the priorities.

Currently, I've been focused on bidbot promotions, mostly that bid on days 3-6.

However, I do agree that the post you are referencing probably doesn't hold a lot of value.

But I read Arcange's stats every single day, which could also apply eventually.

I was actually referring to Arcange's stats when I mentioned some are informative. I also don't want to fight this battle. Tried to push it off onto someone else because I actually care very little about it.

I said I would mention it to one whale and leave it at that but then I saw your post and here we are. I don't like the idea of fighting every battle either, yet I can't just ignore a problem that is right in my face.

If you would like to see more of your friends climb the top earners list then remove someone who doe's not deserve to be there. It's simple.

That actually leaves me in a perfect position to pass the torch to you ;)

We are total agreement and you are in a much better position than me to follow this up. I wish you all the best and hopefully #newsteem is not just all talk :)