This is such a nice forum...thanks for having this. So many questions I could ask. Perhaps I will start here. How do folks feel about once saved always saved. Can folks loose the gift of salvation? Again thanks. - Troy
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Hi Troy, this may differ from the majority view but I certainly believe OSAS is biblical truth. Salvation cannot be lost as the implication would be god who fails which would paint a God who is less than sovereign. The God of the Bible's plans CANNOT be frustrated by the actions of men. He ordains EVERYTHING that comes to pass from the movements of subatomic particles to the thoughts of men, yea even those concerning salvation.
The bottom line is this... Christ will save ALL that are given to Him by the Father. He's not going to lose one. The logical conclusion is that whoever's sins had been paid at the cross will necessarily believe the gospel and one day be given glorified bodies INCAPABLE of sin and preserved until that day. Christ is not only the author but finisher of the faith of the saints. Thank God for that!
It always comes back to free will, no one outside of oneself can snatch one out of His hand but if one cannot choose to walk away than it means our free will is limited.. not seeing this as a sovereignity issue..satan and the demons chose to rebel and they were in heaven experiencing the fullness of Him..if they could with their free will under those circumstances don't c how we can't.
Hi @wilx, I beg to differ. It says "no man" so that would include oneself. A blood-bought born-again gospel believer cannot repudiate His gift for such gifts are without repentance. I am happy to discuss further and look forward to any opportunity. Have a good weekend!
Including verse for reference. May it be a blessing :)
Romans 11:29 KJVS
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Hey brother, I disagree about "no man" I think the reference is pretty clear it means someone else, as one cannot "snatch" oneself, word refers to someone or something else.
Gifts without repentance refers to the spiritual gifts, not salvation.
We can agree to disagree God bless bro.
Not so much lose, but give it up.. free will lets us reject the Lord and his ways, hard as it is to understand why someone would want to..
Yes, well said @wilx