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RE: Perhaps we need to speak as one?

in #community5 years ago

Thanks for the tag @fionasfavourites and great post @dreemsteem but I'm not going to mince my words here.

HF20 was dog shit for new users. Way to stop anyone with a new account being able to do ANYTHING without a delegation of at least 100SP to make it usable.

HF21 proposals - premium bull shit (yes, I upgraded the shit to the highest of the high). Content creators don't exactly get big rewards as it stands and now with SPS taking 10% away from the rewards pool, the curation rewards slashing another 25% away and this convergent linear gobbledegook will mean that anyone who doesn't get more than 12STEEM on their post payouts could be 33% worse off.

Remind me again why content creators should stay on this platform should HF21 go ahead and hope to make anything substantial?

Content creators may as well post their content elsewhere and just set up steem auto to follow the big curation trails and get maximum return for curation for absolutely no effort whatsoever.

I'd even be "happy" with 2/3 author 1/3 curator but 75/25 is actually pretty good. Whales would get their "money" back after 4 x 100% upvotes each day which is not an inconsiderate amount - and curation doesn't cost them anything, it's literally clicking the up button if you like the article!

We all know what the solution is.

Flick the switch and turn off bid bots.

If that can't be done then for sure, the next best solution is to give manual curation initiatives (e.g. curie, helpie, c-squared etc) the backing of these bid bot accounts (which take up >30% of the rewards pool) so that the trending feed is filled with varied content that can give people both inside and outside of steem something to look forward to rather than seeing the same people posting over again or steemcentric apps which mean nothing to anyone outside of steem.

That's my 2 cents (or is it 1 cent now that the curation is 50/50 :) )

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@nickyhavey I knew I could count on you. Here is the follow up post from @dreemsteem which I shall read properly when I am at my desk in a few hours (it's 05:51...)
https://partiko.app/@dreemsteem/now-you-can-see-the-numbers

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Yes I just read the article but I've read a few that show the numbers and it all kinda paints the same picture.

Author rewards are getting wrecked, curators are getting doubled.

I can't say I disagree with your closing sentence to bengy either. We probably joined this platform a little too late as our accounts aren't worth too much hey.

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I joined early but grew mostly by sweat equity. So it took time.

I just recently became a dolphin and was super proud of the accomplishment.

Eh. Comme ci, comme ca.

I'm sure this won't be the last mistake that's made in a hard fork. I'm surprised we crawled past HF20, but we did. Barely.

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What is sweat equity? Not come across that term before.

Congratulations on the dolphin status, it's something I may get to if I stick around and don't get as hard fucked by the hard fork as I'm being initially lead to believe.

And the fact we barely made it past HF20 should sound alarm signals about these proposals for HF21 but I don't know what it will take for these "decision makers" to do the things I mentioned in my first comment seeing as that's the feedback of many authors I've spoken to.

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Oh sweat equity means the time you invested vs money you've invested

I think i probably have invested about $600 towards my dolphin status?

The rest was all through post payouts!!!!

I sure hope you're right too. It makes.me sad that people who have just come in the last year never got to see how AMAZING this place was at one time
They've just been hit harder and harder since HF20.

Too bad ...cuz I can tell you...before that!? There was nonsense, for sure!!! There ALWAYS will be drama lol. You can never get rid of people who like to ruin it for everyone...but at least you could just circle around your tribe and ignore the riff raff, and have a blast!

It's not the same anymore... Greed has a way of permeating everything.

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You're right about greed and you do really have to turn a blind eye to some shenanigans but it's made increasingly difficult with each change that occurs. Just stick with communities you have joined and take it from there.

Hf21 is confirmed to already be happening now so it looks like the preparations need to start happening for people like us. Firstly, pull back any delegations you have to keep your account SP as much as possible so you can get more curation rewards.

Second, get as many posts out now before HF21 so you maximise author payouts.

I haven't invested any money into steem, just transferred some earnings from other sites so I guess my sweat equity is 100% lol.

You're right about greed and you do really have to turn a blind eye to some shenanigans but it's made increasingly difficult with each change that occurs.

Hf21 is confirmed to already be happening now so it looks like the preparations

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Yup...so I am preparing on my side too. We all need preparations! :)

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Exactly..I was the founder of a community that was almost 75% newbies because we sought out and helped them, one at a time.

Before HF20, our retention rate was 75%? As compared to steemits of 9%... So we were doing something very right.

After HF20? The place slowly became a ghost town. It is slowly helping one Steemian at a time again, but I wonder if it will ever see those amazing retention rates again...

I'm a bit disillusioned with these changes "for the community" that only help the few.

Sickened really. But...I don't think anyone is listening to us 🙃

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75% is an amazing effort on retention, well done for that. Sorry you got hard fucked as well by HF20.

I'd say the place quickly became a ghost town after that as noone could post or saw the awful quality content on trending and thought "eff that, I'm leaving". Don't blame them. I'd do the same if my motivations were just about earning money but I wanted to improve my writing skills by joining this (initial) blogging platform and meet like minded people that I couldn't find on fb or Twitter so I'll be sticking around... But only if the communities do.

It seems like there are enough dapps around to keep me on here like travelfeed, dsound, powerhousecreatives, actifit.

The minute you get in the cross hairs of those that do listen, brace yourself for flags as that's what happened to me when I started being vocal about bid bots.

Decentralisation hey... Doesn't work with people. End of. You need a set of guidelines for the community to follow. Anarchy is not a good way to progress as we have seen on multiple occasions.

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75% retention is freaking amazing!!!! We were so proud!!!

And our community was EVERYWHERE because a huge principle for us was.. support, comment, enjoy!!!

It wasnt about the money .. until they made it about the money.

But look!!! Now we have a scalable chain!!!! Woo hoooo ....we just have to wait for the people to come rushing in now.

Still waiting...

Oops.

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