Challenging and defying logic. (Location: Örencik, Şanlıurfa Province, Turkey)
I spent a good 2 weeks studying Göbekli Tepe, and the mainstream views on the place, and came away with more questions than answers, having taken a close look at the site, all be it via photos, and after comparing the visuals of what I see, compared to what mainstream science and archaeologists , and all the other names they give themselves say, I call bs on this one.
I have noticed an ever increasing use of the term "religious artefact" for anything these people do not want to investigate, and for anything that does not fit within the education system that is. How do we challenge a system and make new theories, if we are locked in to the now - the knowledge we have now is at best flawed, at worst hidden, the why is in that last sentence, as it is harder to rewrite books about history, than it is to regurgitate what someone wrote before. The education system based on regurgitating facts is the norm, it needs replacing and now.
The foundations.
Sadly due to plagiarism rules I can not show you the photos I want to of this site, so you will have to do some link click to follow along, if you will. I noticed the brickwork on this site was astounding, it was precision personified at the base and towards the middle, and amateur towards the upper region, this signals the exact opposite to what we think is normal, we see progress as the normal, like over the last 120 or so years, examples = electricity, mobile phones, computers, even radio and tv, this site though shows the polar opposite.
It would seem over the thousands of years this was built and rebuilt, technology went into reverse, from being able to slice bricks with laser cut precision, to only being able to stack shoddy rocks on top of each other, mainstream bs merchants lay claim this is due to it being rebuilt time after time, though logic dictates the foundations come before the roof, so it does not have any basis in reality what they say.
As always I will use some quotations from other sources, so that you know this is not just my opinion being forced onto you.
If you’re into archaeology, neolithic civilization, ancient religion and, of course, paleobabble, you’ve head of Gobekli Tepe. But in case not, Gobekli Tepe is an archaeological site in Turkey whose use dates back to the 10th-8th millennium B.C. The site has been interpreted as a worship center / temple complex. If that’s the case, it is arguable the oldest such complex discovered to date. As the Global Heritage Fund website for Gobekli Tepe states:
Göbekli Tepe is an Early Neolithic site of enormous significance, featuring 5-meter-high monolithic pillars carved in relief and dating to 10,000 or more years ago. Erected within circular “temple” structures, the latest excavations have revealed that these structures likely covered the entire hillside and could number as many as 20 in total. Göbekli Tepe has been interpreted as the oldest human-made place of worship yet discovered.
Though known earlier, excavation of the site first began in 1994 under German archaeologist Klaus Schmidt. The site quickly became known as the Turkish Stonehenge in the popular media. It’s circular structures are unique in that:
Its circles range from 30 to 100 feet in diameter and are surrounded by rectangular stone walls about six feet high. Many of the pillars are carved with elaborate animal figure reliefs. In addition to bulls, foxes, and cranes, representations of lions, ducks, scorpions, ants, spiders, and snakes appear on the pillars. Free-standing sculptures depicting the animals have also been found within the circles. During the most recent excavation season, archaeologists uncovered a statue of a human and sculptures of a vulture’s head and a boar.”
Fringe researchers were quick to label it the original Eden. The problem is that other archaeologists who have now gone through the dig material don’t believe the site is a slam dunk for a temple complex. One of them is E. B. Banning, author of “So Fair a House: Göbekli Tepe and the Identification of Temples in the Pre-Pottery Neolithic of the Near East,” Current Anthropology 52:5 (October 2011): 619-660. Like so many of the antidotes to paleobabble, Banning’s article is not publicly available to those who lack access to scholarly journal databases like JSTOR. And of course the archeo-porn popular press would never tell you about alternative views. Fortunately, a short write-up of Banning’s criticisms of the temple interpretation is available: “Archaeologist Argues World’s Oldest Temples Were Not Temples At All.” Here’s a telling summary:
He outlines growing archaeological evidence for daily activities at the site, such as flintknapping and food preparation. “The presence of this evidence suggests that the site was not, after all, devoid of residential occupation, but likely had quite a large population,” Banning said.
Banning goes on to argue that the population may have been housed in the purported temples themselves. He disagrees with the idea that the presence of decorative pillars or massive construction efforts means the buildings could not have been residential space.
If you’re not used to reading scholarly literature on archaeology, this doesn’t sound like much. I’ll translate. True temples were houses of gods — not domiciles for the general population. The fact that this site does indeed witness to neolithic occupation by a sizeable number of people argues against it being a temple complex. The abstract of the actual article puts it this way:
Archaeologists have proposed that quite a number of structures dating to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic A and B in south west Asia were non-domestic ritual buildings, sometimes described specifically as temples or shrines, and these figure large in some interpretations of social change in the Near Eastern Neolithic. Yet the evidence supporting the identification of cult buildings is often equivocal or depends on ethnocentric distinctions between sacred and profane spaces. This paper explores the case of Gobekli Tepe, a large Pre-Pottery Neolithic site in Turkey that its excavator claims consisted only of temples, to illustrate weaknesses in some kinds of claims about Neolithic sacred spaces and to explore some of the problems of identifying prehistoric ritual. Consideration of the evidence suggests the alternative hypothesis that the buildings at Gobekli Tepe may actually be houses, albeit ones that are rich in symbolic content.
Here are some excerpts from the Banning article that extend from the abstract:
contrasting interpretations of Neolithic ritual space make it clear that archaeologists are far from agreed on how to identify specialized ritual spaces either in the Neolithic or more generally. This is not only a matter of identifying evidence of ritual activity but of identifying in what ways, if any, it can be distinguished from the “ordinary” activities of daily life that we associate with residential or “domestic” use.
Schmidt interprets the images on the pillars as “art” and as religious symbols . . . [He] insists that “no serious claim for domestic use [of the buildings] . . .” and that the Gobekli structures are “without fireplaces, ovens, or other usual traces of “domestic life.”
Banning proceeds to discuss the evidence for domestic ritual, ritual symbolism, and art in previously-known neolithic sites. Bringing such evidence to bear at Gobekli Tepe undermines its identification as a centralized cult centre for a single population (i.e., a temple). Banning’s article shows that there is an abundance of such domestic contexts and artefactual materials from those contexts. Lastly, he combs through the excavation records from Gobekli Tepe, pointing out the site yields evidence of domestic occupation.
The point here is not that Banning’s alternative thesis has won the day. Rather, the point is that it’s a thesis that exists and must be taken seriously — as opposed to jumping to conclusions and turning Gobekli Tepe into Eden (perhaps Atlantis would be a more appropriate analogy). This propensity is something that crops up all the time in discussions of fringe archaeology. Amateur researchers seize on some site, assign a fantastic meaning to it, write a book that never undergoes peer review, make some cash, and then look for the next point of titillation amid the dirt and debris of antiquity. Conclusions are drawn about an object without serious consideration of all the data in context (or the absence of data one would expect if a given interpretation would be correct). This “method” is simply unprofessional and misleading.
Video links.
Whilst researching I like to take in as many sources as possible, including video, books and photos, I would love to highlight some of the superb Graham Hancock's thoughts also, and will leave some links at the footer below.
Here is a video from another sceptic like me, 30 minutes long, I hope you have time..
Beyond belief.
There are so many question marks regarding ancient history, from pyramid construction, to this site, to other middle eastern sites with doors that are 50 feet high, cities carved into rock, and so many 10,000 year old sites or older, that we simply could not build today, so many questions, and a flawed text book that answers none of the questions.
I have plenty of these sites to list over the coming weeks, as we go back into the mysteries of life. I hope you stay tuned.
Deliberators verdict = Someone is not telling the truth.
As always have a fantastic week, if you have any thoughts please feel free to leave them below.
Reveal spoiler
Deliberator = Definition of deliberator
plural -s
: one that deliberates
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What baffles me is the wall of obvious lies of the "scientific" community.
It's not only Göbekli Tepe, it's almost everywhere, the pyramids worldwide, megalithic structures wherever you look and still, all this evidence get's ridiculed and dismissed. I find it hard to believe that those "scientists" are just stupid or ignorant or simply follow academic pressure. The facts are so obvious, that even a layman finds the mainstream explanations idiotic. So, what could it be that keeps the whole mainstream scientific community in line? Are they all only corrupt and fear for their jobs? By stating the obvious? Something is very strange here...
Regardless of them and because of them, we are going to have to do what we should have done from birth "make our own mind up" because just like you, I do not believe a word they are saying any more. It seems money, greed and funding got the better of the lot of them, more so than truth.
How could we not my friend. Your posts are like my favorite TV show as a kid, In Search Of, hosted by Leonard Nimoy.
In case you have never seen it, or did and loved it too.
Thank you kindly good sir, and yes I do remember that show, we had it in the UK also, along with a lot of other American tv shows, have a great week.
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We can't trust all what the mainstream media says nowadays. They can easily be paid.
Indeed, bought and paid for is what they are, advertisers rule, so do corporations, thanks for a superb comment.
interesting
Thanks.
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Thanks for the compliment.
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I am staying tuned in mate, i hope we can work out what these places are for over time.
Thanks my friend, all support is good support, cheers.
this is just an amazing find.adds to more mysteries about the world we live in and the way history is unfolding right in front of our eyes.i truly believe that what we are taught or read is not totally true.the jig-saw puzzle is not complete.i truly believe that some cataclysmic event have happened way back that brought about the extinction of these civilizations.
That is what seems to be unfolding, a giant meteor hit the earth around 12,000 years ago seems to be the theory picking up momentum, outside of the bought and paid for mainstream circles. I prefer to believe the new challengers to the old believers, because for sure, we have been lied to.
Thank you Transparencybot. I have had my eye on this character for awhile now. He seems like some kind of vote magnet, posting all kinds of stuff that draws me back time and again. Forcing my trembling finger to smash that upvote button. Draining my voting power day after day, this one does. He is crafty for sure, this much I can tell you.
Oh that gave me a good chuckle this morning, thanks my friend.