Essentially I think we have here the same problem as we have on other topics. Lots of lies and facts which don't add up or make sense. Much more questions than answers. But I think we are well advised to not jump to conclusions. Just because one theory appears to be implausible does not mean that another implausible theory must be right. All we really know is that we don't know what the REAL reality is. In politics, history, science and many other areas we have the same problem.
@herrleeb Hey, hope you are doing well, I did a 31 day water fast in January and it took me till about a month ago to recover, so I have not posted forever. Water sticking to a spinning ball with no visual evidence as to it visually curving and no replicable experiments EVER is implausible for sure. Whatever shape the earth actually is the way my brain processes the idea of water is that it always finds its level and IF water truly is 75% of the earths surface (big if), it seems to me not so implausible as the ball earth alternative no?
I hear this idea alot that because we cannot explain the flat earth concept from A to Z we should not jump to the conclusion the earth is flat. I think at some point we have to come up with a "best solution" to the problem until proven otherwise. That is pretty much how my belief the earth is a ball fell, I never truly examined the evidence and when I finally did I could no longer believe the evidence supported the earth being a ball as much as the evidence that supports the earth being flat.
As far as real reality, even if we are in a computer simulation, that is then my real reality in my head. You sound much like my brother and others who tell me that its all just an simulation and so there technically is no such thing as ball or flat earth if its all just code, but I disagree. I feel that even if this is a simulation than that IS our reality, unless we can somehow escape it. Peace-Dave
Hey my friend, good to see back! I probably did not express myself properly, so please let me clarify.
I do not subscribe to any theory, including the simulation theory. All I know is that there are obvious lies and incongruities. Nothing makes sense, from any perspective. So all I am saying is that we do not have conclusive proof of any theory.
All we know is that we don't know anything. We only have some clues that the official narrative is fake.
I have mulled a bit about the water on a spinning ball idea. A possible explanation for me would be that if the earth performs only one rotation in 24 hours, the RELATIVE surface speed is still very slow. Even though the absolute speed is high, the rotation itself is actually slow. As slow as the hour index finger on a watch, barely noticeable with the naked eye. Just a thought... And of course this does not answer so many other questions. Most baffling for me is the problem with the vacuum...
@herrleeb- The thing is when you say nothing makes any sense you lose me. I KNOW water does not stick to spinning balls here on earth. I KNOW that vacuums need a barrier to hold different pressure systems. I know you can see chicago from across lake michigan and that on a ball earth the size stated that should be imposssible. I KNOW NASA lies. and on and on. Those ideas make sense, they may end up being proven incorrect but right now the evidence is very very strong that those ideas are correct, just like we KNOW if we jump out of a 10 story building we will be lucky to live, very lucky!
Not trying to be a dick, do you think it could be cognitive dissonance that you are experiencing? My friend now agrees with some of the crazy stuff I say but he also tells me he will not tell ANYONE and that he thinks it may be healthy to know this EVEN IF it is true. I understand his thoughts as far as believing these things seems to isolate a person but for me ignoring what I process as truth is bothersome, kinda like when I do something morally wrong like lying and it bothers me as I do it (I try not to lol).
What I am trying to communicate is that the true shape or nature of the earth might be something ENTIRELY different, something we have not even thought about yet. All we have are theories at this point and jumping to premature conclusions or assumptions is dangerous. It exposes us to ridicule and disbelief. It pushes us into the corner of "conspiracy nuts".
Maybe I can give you a visual idea of how I believe different perspectives can distort our perception of reality. In the image below the assumption of the observer about the true nature of an object is deceptively faulty. Nothing is what it appears to be at first sight. Or second :)
On a simple level, water in a bathtub is ALWAYS flat. Maybe in another dimension it curves but in OUR reality it is FLAT. You ignored my point of jumping out of a window at 10 stories. If death was not a FACT that will more than likely result than people would be testing it out all the time. We have to be able to accept that which we experience and can TEST or we cannot accept ANYTHING at which point you cannot function.
The fact is saying that object is a triangle or a square or a circular object are all part of the TRUTH, maybe not 100% but much better than rejecting everything outright because it may not be 100% truth.
I am really not trying to be an asshole, I just feel that by treating everything as a theory leaves you with no ability to believe ANYTHING you see, touch, feel, or taste even though that is directly what you experience.
Maybe where we disagree is I am open to being wrong about my evidence based beliefs while basing my actions on those beliefs. Idk, somehow we are talking past each other I feel.
Yeah, we are talking past each other. I do not disagree with you at all, about any of the facts. I simply arrive at a different conclusion which is: Whatever we are being told by the cabal is wrong. There is plenty of evidence suggesting that the shape of the earth and nature of the universe IS DIFFERENT THAN WE ARE MADE TO BELIEVE. I just refuse to make the call that it must be flat as only possible answer. If I am not a christian it does not mean that I am a muslim or whatever. I just don't buy into the restraints of "if it is not white, it must be black". It could be something outside our comprehension.
To clarify: Our perception of reality is dependent on our senses. A human, a bat and a microbe share the same environment but perceive it differently. How would we judge the world if humanity would not have VISION. we would come to a different conclusion. And we know we can see only a certain spectrum of light. So, what if we HAD an additional sense like a bat? Or 2? Or many? Reality could appear completely different. How would an ant judge the universe? Who says that we are the end of all and there is nothing outside our perception?
That helped me get your point of view better, thanks for being patient. I think my brother sees things the same as you, maybe he won't trigger me as much now lol.