100% agreed! We both believe that schools have way to much influence now. In California your child that is in pre-school is taught sex education. This may show my age but why does a child that young need to be taught anything about sex? Also why are they teaching them same-sex relationships? What happened to the days when Parents taught their children about life, how to think, and so on? Children learn more from TV and then school then they do from their family, and the Parents of them children are the first ones to say what is wrong with this kids today.
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well, i think i once read a quote by an egyptian priest a who lived a few thousand of years ago who asked exactly the same question but personall i think. Other than genetic disposition a child is basically a blank slate when it opens its eyes for the first time it doesnt even know what "a face" or "a hand" is, it just has impressions so if anyone's to blame it wouldn't be them ... but that's not black & white ofcourse, you can't just go around allowing all kinds of delinquency "just because they're young". I mean, exploring is a very important part of growing up, including running face first into a wall (the fastest way to learn newtonian physics really) there have to be certain limits and all psychology or research aside. Children 'in development' will need pointers. Those are highly dependant on culture mostly, i dont dare say geolocation but i'll say culture because there's a huge difference between norms and values ofcourse, a value is somewhat more global (cant say universal because until we meet them aliens for all we know good and bad exists no where in the whole verse other than in the human mind), while norms can be very local, and temporary even (my social worker is shining through again lol, cant help that i always liked sociology and psychology, sadly that didnt happen)
Which is, as you say, not really the task of the school the intent would be that children know how to behave when they enter the schoolgrounds because they have obtained those 'norms' as well as values from their family, parents or whatever. The task of a school is purely academic now when it comes to sexual education, once more, as usual thats debatable and not one-size fits all, some parents can't handle that, they can't even handle their own sexlife so the actual clinical facts on intercourse and reproduction i feel are well within the scope of what schools should (or would be allowed to) do
however, teaching kids on sex from kindergarten ... i agree that's not needed but they should be by the time they're 12 ... the age of communion here in christian land or if you go back the age when they had to kill a wolf to prove they were a man, or old enough to be married when they were a girl.
More so because today, and its not about liking or not, i think its important they know what happens if they get curious (because if kids get curious no amount of parents or teachers is going to stop them)
twelve sounds young, but it didnt use to be and biologically thats where teen moms come from , which usually ruins both lives there so prevention is the issue. If parents can't handle that then maybe the school can step in but a kid should be a kid too, it needs time to play and discover, and live in its mystical world for long enough to build its own version of reality
on which the other world is superimposed by local society ofcourse. At any rate you could say that parent could choose to tell the school not to do it, AND take responsibility, as always, personnal choice seems to be the hardest thing in the protectorate and the nanny state
that's why its so hard to get out of diapers ;-)
Valid point. Some parents may not be able to handle having "the talk" with their children. When thinking about this and looking at society today that statement may have even more truth to it then 10 years ago. Taking that into consideration, I can see where you are coming from as far as what schools teach. To be honest, I do not see a problem with that at all. My main concern has always been age.
I agree that 12 is a great age for this. There is no real "rule" book for this. IMO there are going to be some kids that need to know this information before the age of 12, and the other side of that is there will be kids that could have learned this later in life.
yes indeed , its not really an exact science, i think it would be up to the parent to keep a hawk eye on when the kid gets curious or when you think its safer to destroy their illusions if not already because ofcourse kids talk about it anyway and then there's the internet
without wanting to judge but i feel parents today might have an extra obligation explaining that sex can be like porn (sometimes) but it's not really what it "is" ... i dont know how to say this exactly ...
personal choice ofcourse again but in any case i think its best to not hide anything because thats what kids do : explore
best to come prepared :)
Don't forget music and tv as well. Music and TV are a big influence in most children's lives
as much as i would like to dis- i have to agree although i think tv might be very much less of an influence today than it used to be ... most people i hear talk about facebook really, "have you seen this or that on fudbook?" "have you seen that guy post taht on fudbook?"
i rarely hear anyone talk about tv anymore but
that might be a local phenomenom ofcourse
No doubt social media (Facebook more than any) has the biggest influence. Young kids (like 7) have Facebook nowadays. This generation has it a little tough... They do not not know what it means to have to work to be a friend because they have social media and smart phones. Back in the day (before cell phones) people had to work on friendships. It was so much easier IMO to know who your real friends are...they had to make an effort to be in your life (planned phone calls and visit and people actually wrote letter to each other too (yes I am older ^^)). Social Media (IMO) has took away from real friendships.
o i remember letters :p i think the lie of 'classic' (if i can call it that already) social networks is the fact that people simply talk into the void. It's therapeutic on one side because you can clear your head, but on the other hand it's also an illusion where those 2000 'friends' you count on your list arent really there, even if no one reads it gives the impression of being heard and you're right, it's actually anti-social media, also because it's mainstream. Like here on steemit you have communities that are built and growing round a topic where everyone feels strongly about. The tech-heads and the enlightened altruists i hear talking about maybe we can have communities but in fact they're already here. People can slip into a niche, big or small, and surround themselves with like minds. No matter what the fat fish say, there's tons of great content, and almost something for everyone. Their problem seems to be they want to be entertained, i think the attitude is a bit demeaning but ive always been an alleycat and a tunnelrat so i dont really feel the need to swim in shallow waters, i prefer it deeper, and i have opinion, on many things, here among others, but not limited to.
I strongly believe though with the advent of steemit (in its babysteps) opening the door to possibilities that werent there we'll soon see more of this and the classic mastodonts will have to adapt, or become fossil fuel lol. After all , who in his right mind would waste time on a place that tries to use you to sell to you when you can do it in a place you can use to spread yourself , connect with like minds in the borderlesss nation, and get a real bonus on the side ?
I don't think they will need to sue google or facebook in order to achieve their downfall, unless they adapt, and make it attractive. These things take time ofcourse. It's still the "shady" cryptoworld after all, the land of evil hackers, criminals and online druglords, but that's because people are always scared of something new and also ofcourse because the elders and the ancient ones don't like it when something comes along that might actually dent them.
But , despite that, here, there's still tons of people who stick to the "nice post, plz upvote thx" replies, which i understand is slightly annoying if you get a few 100 of those per post but i dont think opression or content dictatorship will fix that. Mute buttons, block buttons and ... i'm kinda hoping they would implement a feature where posts can be 'hidden' by default, so they only show up to the community its aimed at (by primary hashtag, you can get a community by putting the first tag as "wonderlandXX001abvb" for instance and everyone involved just has to look for that and all post with that as primary will be put in the same subfolder while if autohide is set by the author it wont show in the trending new or hot feeds (for instance) and the enlightened content dictators won't be bothered by it)
way better solution than ein vote - ein account - ein content imo lol
right-o ... another epistle ...sorry, i get carried away sometimes