You halfway think you are freezing to death and hallucinating!
If you chose Option 3 you began rubbing your partner’s hands for warmth. This further damages the tissue.
If the two of you survive today's challenge, your partner has fingers amputated.
If you chose Option 1 you started a fire first. Gathering dry tinder and wood and starting a fire took time, during which your partner’s fingers suffered more damage from the frostbite. If you both survive today's challenge, your partner faces finger amputation.
• Never rub frostbitten tissue. And be careful not to warm it too fast. Many people are drawn to placing hands or feet in hot water. You do not want hot water, you want body temperature water- around 97-99 degrees.
If you chose Option 2 you immediately placed your partner’s hands against your chest. Under your layers, your body’s core is the perfect temperature to slowly rewarm them.
When the color comes back to the fingers, you drape the emergency blanket around your partner and instruct them to place their hands under their clothing against their core, and you set about starting a fire.
Every survivor starts a fire
Luckily, you have a mini bag of nacho cheese Dorito’s! They are a great Firestarter!
You snap many dead, leafless branches from surrounding trees, they may be wet with snow but they will burn easier than live branches. You will add fresh tree branches later, knowing they will also produce more smoke when burning- dark smoke that will be seen for miles now that the wind and storm have dissipated.
You arrange your fire pit location and light the nacho chips which burn hot and bright. You add the dry branches and quickly gather more, plus some wet ones.
Before long you have a nice fire which is producing a promising plume of smoke which drifts steadily upward, carrying your hopes of rescue high into the heavens.
You sit beside your partner and breathe a sigh of relief, giving thanks for your small victory.
Your imagination has been working in a frenzy. How on Earth did your partner end up down here?
Having been holed up in the car all this time, your partner decided to get out and look around. Thirsty, they brought an empty water bottle to try to fill with snow with hopes their body heat could melt it. Eating frozen snow should only be considered when dehydrated. Always melt or heat snow to comfortable drinking temperature otherwise you hasten your already cold body toward a hypothermic state.
While outside, they walked down the road to where it curved around the mountain, hoping to be able to see something further along the road.
Maneuvering through the thigh-high snow without proper gear, your partner chose parts of the road which appeared windswept. Unfortunately, this caused them to slip on an icy patch and roll down the mountain. The incline was great so they fell a long way.
Luckily the snow was fresh powder so no injuries were sustained.
You partner then began crisscrossing up the mountain, hoping to return to the car.
Before long you spotted each other!
You share the remaining energy bar and the melted water, then fill the steel canteen with snow and place it by the flames to melt.
You discuss plan options. Should you continue to warm up and hydrate (partner is dehydrated from being stuck in the car) then continue up to route 12 and find one of your vehicles. Should you head up now and build a snow cave before dark if you do not find shelter?
You carefully weigh the pros and cons of each possibility.
You decide that with any choice, you will make a bigger fire to make more smoke and hopefully attract attention.
You and your partner start breaking off tree branches from the surrounding area.
You hear a scream. You run.
Your partner is flailing in water. They fell through ice. You didn't even realize you were near or on a body of water covered in snow from the avalanche.
What do you do?
Option 1 Quickly get near the edge and spread your legs wide. Take off your belt and use it for your partner to grab hold of and hoist them out.
Option 2 Crawl then shimmy on your belly when near edge and carefully hoist them out.
Option 3 Instruct them to get to the edge of the ice where they were before they fell through and spread their elbows to lift out of the water.
Bonus: for upvotes:) What do you do next if you get your partner out of the water?
I will put the three choices in the comments. Place your choice in the corresponding comment. There is one choice that is best for survival.
In 24 hours I will post the answers.
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If you choose Option 1 Quickly get near the edge and spread your legs wide. Take off your belt and use it for your partner to grab hold of and hoist them out comment here
Yup!!! This has gotta be it assuming you know where edge is there is more leverage and less risk because if more ice breaks you still have the belt.
Bonus-- both get nekkid and get into the thermal blanket. Hopefullyim wearing layers and can share some clothes, put shoes by the fire until both bodies are warm.
Nekkid. Lol, love it!
I choose this option. And after getting my partner out I will remove the wet clothes, and get back to the fire for warming. I will use some of my dry clothes to gently pat my partner dry, and remove one of my layers of clothing to give my partner, then wrap the space blank over their back to contain more warmth while I continue to gather more wood for the fire, and also hang the wet clothes out on sticks around the fire to dry.
After this mishap I make plans to spend the night, and build a shelter near the fire from branches I find on the ground. I warm sume water for my partner to drink. I build a bigger fire, and keep an eye on my partner. If thers measures are not enough I make it so we can share skin to skin contact on torsos, hands and feet through the night while staying as covered as possible.
I choose this option. The next thing to do is get my partner out of the wet clothes.
I'm a helper, no point changing now.
Once out of the water, get in shelter, strip them off and get some skin to skin activity going - to warm them up
No shelter just the blanket as far as i know
a quickly constructed snow shelter....?
Lol cold
Yes, use your belt...don't get near the edge yourself. Hoist him out and get him out of those wet clothes. Use body heat, your dry clothes, and the thermal blanket to warm him. Sip the water in the canteen that has been warming by the fire.
time is short, spreading the legs spreads the weight, the belt is easier for him to grasp. Get him out and get get him out of the wet clothes and in the blanket
Going with 1
I want to join my partner, don't I?
[RIP'd day 4] I choose option 1. stay near the edge You don't want to stay in wet clothes either.
I choose Option 1.
I'd choose this option (If I were alive.. haha)...
The sooner the body heat is retained or raised, the better to prevent hypothermia. Getting those wet clothes off asap, wrapping in blankets with you. Rub them briskly to help build up blood flow, build body heat. If you are able to, melt snow in canteen, over that fire. When it is warm enough to drink, have them take sips. If your own body can't give off enough warmth, then go skin to skin under the blanket.
Oops, forgot to pick my choice. I would go for #2. If you stand on the ice, chances are, it would crack under your own weight, thereby putting yourself in the same predicament.
If you choose Option 2 Crawl then shimmy on your belly when near edge and carefully hoist them out, comment here
I choose Option 2. I don't want to risk falling through the ice as my partner did (Option 1), and I don't want to leave my partner there alone (Option 3), as it's highly unlikely they'll be able to get out without help.
If I lie down, the pressure per square foot on the ice will be minimal, so it's highly unlikely that the ice will break under me. I will be able to help my partner out of the water, probably in a minute or so.
(Note – If I happen to see any long thick branch lying around, I might grab that, and stick it out for my friend to grab onto.)
Once my partner is out, we'd strip off their clothes, which would turn to ice in a few minutes if we didn't, and hang them near the fire. I'd give my partner some of my clothing, then cover them in the aluminum foil blanket. Then I'd get the fire roaring, and dry the clothes.
I would definitely pick this option. Jut as your partner didn't know they were standing on a body of water, you don't know where the water body begins or ends. Being on your belly helps spread the weight instead of focusing it on one point and risking breaking the ice and falling into the water yourself.
Having taken them out of the water, I'd get us back to the fire, get naked (because their clothes are completely wet, possibly frozen, and I just got on my belly on snow, so mine must be damp as well), get under the thermal blanket I think we have and simply sharing body heat by the fire until our clothes are dry (thanks again, fire) and we may proceed.
Yay for flammable tortilla chips ;)
LOL!
But... most accidents happen at home...
;)
Very true!
I choose 2
Yay for flammable tortilla chips ;)
Lol, rinse and repeat for me :-) I wrote why in my previous comment :-)
I choose this because I have to be very careful not to break more ice. Sitting on the edge will put too much weight on just one portion of the ice, hence I might fall as well. But if I crawl towards the edge, my weight would spread out and it will be easier for me to pull him out.
Once he's out of the water, I'd strip him off his wet clothes, wrap him with the emergency blanket and make him sit beside the fire while telling him "OMG you're so stupid." Lol. That's all, thank you. :)
I choose option 2. This is the best one as we have to be careful not to break more ice near the edge. Crawling on the belly will increase the area of contact with ice and thus distribute the body weight to a larger area.
Zombie
Having been dead for a few hours, now, I’m not sure wether my body weight has changed significantly, but I guess my internal organs haven’t had time to decompose, yet, so I’m still pretty much what I was. Therefore crawling is preferable to standing on the edge on my two feet.
The good news? I’m dead, so the cold won’t bother me, anyways cue cape toss
Once my partner is safely out of the water, his wet clothes need to come off at once. If I were alive, I’d go skin to skin under the blanket right away, but since whatever body heat I might have retained in death was used earlier to warm up his hands, it’s probably better if I give him some of my dry layers of clothing, sushi him inside the blanket (hosomaki style), and get the fire roaring.
As he warms up by the fire, dry clothes and blanket around him, I’d busy myself with creating a shelter for the night.
This option. Staying low on the ice helps keep it together. Once out, get my partner out of their clothes and into the emergency blanket.
I thint option 2 is the safest way.
After I pull my partner out, I'll check if he's breathing. Maybe he will needs in artificial respiration. After that, it is necessary to remove all wet clothes from him, give something from your own dry clothes and wrap it in a blanket. His clothes can be dried near the fire
This is what I would do though I am a zombie
dead
to avoid breaking the ice further, I would move on my belly towards my partner putting as little strain on the frail ice layer as possible.
After she is out I will have to get her naked to prevent the clothes from drawing too much of her body heat. Then quickly wrap her in a blanket. This should happen where there is as little wind as possible.
Brrr, I'm cold just thinking about it.^^
To be honest, there are aspects of each scenario I like, but getting flat and spreading my weight is the primary concern, so option 2 it is. I would ideally also use my belt to give her something to more easily grasp as in scenario 1, and I would also advise her to swim to the edge of the hole to try breaking away the thin ice where she fell in until she could find a better purchase on the edge, but especially in this case, she is likely panicked and not open to helpful advice.
Once out, since you didn't say we are near the fire, we need to get her to the fire and get her out of the wet clothing. I would use the emergency blanket as a reflector with her between it and the fire to be warmed on both sides. Then, the next priority is hanging the wet clothing to dry.
option 2, but the reality is that you should still use your belt. the ice is obviously thin where your partner fell! so you want to stay as far as you can from it AND reduce your load per unit area!
If you choose Option 3 Instruct them to get to the edge of the ice where they were before they fell through and spread their elbows to lift out of the water, comment here.
I wil choose Option 3,talking to my partner to stay calm and get to the edge of the ice where he was before he fell through and try to use his elbow to partially lift himself up or stay afloat until I get him. Option 1 is not the best option because I have to be very careful not to break another ice that can put me too danger. Crawling is good on the part of the rescuer instead of taking steps but first I need to tell my roommate do option 3 and try to stay calm.For the bonus,remove his wet clothes asap and warm him up.
Hooray yayyay! I am still alive! Okay back to saving my partner story. I will run as fast as I can but not too close as the ice might not be stabil. And with a calm voice start yelling on top of my lungs to tell him to swim to the edge of the ice and use his elbows to lift himself partially out of the water. Make sure he understand how to go to the edge of the ice where he was coming from. HONEY! GET A GRIP ON THE EDGE OF THE ICE!... IF YOU HAVE SHARP OBJECT USE IT TO GRIP! KICK YOUR LEGS HARD! GET HORIZONTAL AND ROLL AWAY FROM THE WATER! FAST HONEY! YOU CAN DO IT! I LOVE YOU!
Yes, don't sacrifice yourself. If you fall in then what- there is noone else there
I choose this one.
And, what would I do after? Probably cry at this point lol. Did they really have to fall in? 😉
But as others have said you would want to get them out of their wet clothes asap and wrapped and warm. Guess we’re staying put for the night drying clothes by the fire while we regain body heat in a snow cave.
This is what I'll do. I won't want to break the ice any further. When she's out, I'll get her wet clothes off, and then perform a skin to skin contact so she can warm up.
Being that I don't want to get too close to the ice since it is a little weak, I'll have to direct him on what to do.
And when he is out, I'll get his wet clothes off, and then carry out a skin to skin contact, wrapping ourselves in the emergency blanket.
This option seems best to me. I really want her out, but being that we are the only ones around, I don't want to risk handicapping both of us by going too close to the weak ice.
When she is out, I'll surely take off her wet clothes, and then make sure she warms up by conducting a bare hug, so the warmth from me can get to her.
The rescuers actually usually end up being in more trouble than the ones they are trying to rescue
I choose this option. I would not risk falling in myself.
OH nice, we survive and Frank still has his fingers. Good. (uhm, not that I'm implying anything by it haha) My boobs saved his cold fingers! Yay!
No, the St-Laurent is the wrost river to be in lol The fleuve is so polluted.
Frank says we should choose Option 3, he wants to survive this lol and he says if his head is out of the water and he can grab hold of the ice, instructing him is the best thing I can do and has less risk of me falling in with him.
And if I get him out of the water, what would I do next, he would need to slide to me, and we could then move to more solid ground. I guess figuring out how to start a fire would be good to help dry his clothes. I'd suggest seeing if he can take anything off and I can pass him anything of mine without me freezing, but that could help him keep warm. Defo make a fire.
Best not to risk joining them in the drink. Give them encouragement and advice, but dont sacrifice yourself. Often it id the rescuer and not the rescued that suffers death when water is involved.
Once they are clear of the dangerous thin ice, strip them of their wet clothes and place the two that just got out of the icy water into your snow cave next to the fire. Strip down yourself and gather them into a bundle around you.sothatthey can start to get their core temps up to yours.
Yes, don't sacrifice yourself. If you fall in then what- there is noone else there
I'll go with option 3.Remember, we are alone in this place, and I'll want to avoid getting into the water with him.
After he is out, I'll remove his wet clothes, and then wrap him up in the emergency blankets.
I choose option 3.
And oh my god. This snow survival has turned into a freakin nightmare.. i am already dead once. Lets hope this was the right answer.. 👻
I don't want to add another weight to the weak ice, so I'll not go too close.
When he is out, I'll help him take off his wet clothes, and wrap him up in the emergency blanket, and the take him undertake skin to skin contact for steady heat.
I'll go with this option. Being that am not a good swimmer, I don't want to get too close to the thin ice. When she is out, I'll take off her wet clothes, and then use the emergency blanket to cover her up, and then take her close to the fire.
I choose this option. Going close to the ice only makes it weake.and when he us out, I'll take off his wet clothes, then I'll take off my coat. Then we'll carry out skin to skin contact together inside e emergency blanket , and then after some time, he will wear my coat so he can warm up.
Since she is not yet at an extreme state of drowning, I can still talk her into coming out, so we don't get stuck. When she is out, I'll surely help her remove her wet clothes and then carryout a skin to skin hug, and then give her my coat, and also cover her with the emergency blanket.
I'll not use the fire as warmth, cause she needs a steady heat, not direct heat.
All the options seem right, but this looks like the most appropriate to me. I don't want both of us to get stuck in the ice. So I'll direct her in how to come out. And then try to get her dry by taking off the wet clothes.
I go with option 3.we are the only ones available, it's risky going closer.
When I bring him out, I'll make sure to get him warm by using the fire, after I have removed his wet clothes, and wrapped him with the emergency blanket.
I'd go with this.... Option 3
Though really, if in this situation I would tell them to FIRST, stay calm and not move any more than needed. Then, get to the edge of the ice and begin to kick their legs so as to make it easier to get their belly up on the ice (assuming the hole was too large for the elbow thing). Once on the ice I would have them roll or shimmy (as flat and spread out as possible) towards land. No telling where it might break again, so I'd be instructing from safety.
Then, we'd remove his clothing and mine and wrap in a tiny emergency blanket I still had, hugging to raise body temp.
*If he was already too tired to hoist himself out I would unwind the Paracord belt I was wearing, and throw it to him, hopefully able to reach while I'm still on solid ground. Then pull him out and to safety.
But damn, all that would totally suck. 😕
Will go with the option 3. It's entirely possible to get up from the ice by yourself with a good tehnique. Other two methods will put yourself at risk.
Bonus: Then I take off my partners wet clothes and put them on top of sticks for example, spreading them so that the clothes dry and do not freeze. I will place the outside of the jacket against the wind so that the inside gets warmer, also for protection from the wind.
Option 3 is the most viable of the three choices
Option three is best, but option one and two will be cool to play with ;]
Body heat. Take off their clothes when you get to the fire. Wrap a blanket/coat around the both of you. Dry their clothes on the fire. Get naked too for maximum effect.
"for maximum effect." :-) Wise.
Okay, Im out of the game, but I choose option one. Once they are out, you have to warm them with your body, and get them drier clothes. Apparently, once you die. You keep dying in each scenario. WHY!!!
Only the smart survive ;)
Hey now!
Lol btw im dead too
@arbitrarykitten you have not added it on comment
Erk! My internet got dumb and I had to reset it! Sorry, but the options are in the comments now!!!
I choose option 3. try to talk the my partner to pull up out of the water and roll the way they had walked before falling in. find wind shelter - take off wet clothing. Use blanket and some of my clothing. Need to build a new fire pronto.
while we are waiting for the comment options to appear....
I would like to proposition you to jump into bed with me , and let me use your services!..(metaphorically speaking, for those with sewers for minds)
I'll see you on discord, for a chat (not now, a little busy).
I have an idea...........
I choose option 1.. (though I am dead) and get him by the fire and get the wet clothes off and snuggle under the blanket making sure you keep an eye on the fire to make sure it doesn't go out.
I would choose option 2, and quickly get them out of the wet clothes an into something dry, a blanket or whatever, and warm up near the fire.
Without a reply from you to choose from, I am replying to the main thread and Choosing option 3.
After instructing them to pull them-self up, I instruct them to kick their legs to get them-self as horizontal as possible and to use anything they may have on them to use to pick into the ice and pull them-self out. Once out of the water, they are to roll towards the shore. Once safely on land, get them back to your camp (assuming it is very close) and treat for shock. NO food or water. Get wet clothing off and use the space blanket to warm them up with your own body heat by wrapping the both of you together in the blanket and anything else that is dry and will provide insulation.
Grrrrr aaar? My frist day as a
And I was late to work...
Good luck to everyone and SURVIVE!
Wonderful post you know what I have never seen snow directly just in TV i wish if i see snow
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