Ok, i get you are mad about some content on this platform, but things like this will make Steem more popular, you need a lot of content here and you are already big with your SP, but you are taking income away from people that need that money, it's not easy for minnows to come big. Nobody that votes on my posts can ever reach your value, thats the nature of the steem system, I think that is a very weak point of the coin. And I don't want to say you are not deserving your SP, because you are a early adopter and that should reward you, but you are in a pretty big position and you should not just throw out so many downvotes. If you think about it, the big NBA/NFL Fantasy Leagues do the exact same thing, but they got big supporters with 50+ SBD per post, they are really abusing a lot of power, but you don't take the money from them, because it could hurt you very hard. I am asking you for 2 things:
- Could you please consider put some or all downvotes away? It really hurts me and other people.
- Please don't downvote again on any posts, that would be really nice of you and if you still will, please just downvote a single post and not every single one of a week.
Please just give me some response if I can continue my service(I will not give up anyways, you just could make it very hard for me)
As you say, I'm an early adopter. I was involved in Steem before Steemit or Busy existed, basically from the beginning. I've seen it grow from nothing, and I want to help it keep growing because I think things like this can make a real difference in people's lives long term. I see voting kickback arrangements as a very real threat to that, which is why I flag them when I see them. Do you understand why I think they're a problem? If you don't, I can try to explain the issue more thoroughly if you can ask specific questions about what doesn't make sense to you, but unless you can explain convincingly why I'm wrong about it I'm not going to change my behavior.
I try to upvote minnows and newcomers posts and comments, and I never flag things just because I disagree with them or dislike other things the same person has posted. Basically the only things I would flag are spam, fraud/scam attempts, and voting kickback schemes. I've seen other lotteries on Steem that sell tickets based on direct SBD payments rather than using the voting rewards, and I have no problem with that arrangement. Has it occurred to you that people could cheat your lottery using multiple accounts and bots?
If it's allowed to be profitable to run this sort of lottery subsidized by the reward pool, then early adopters like me (but without my idealism and hope for Steem) could run them, upvote them, and then create additional accounts to win them in order to increase their holdings. If we allow it to be profitable to use Steem that way instead of as a social network, then we can expect Steem to be overrun with bots, fake user accounts, and get rich quick schemes until it becomes a ghost town devoid of the community interaction for which it was built.
I appreciate your willingness to discuss the issues here, and I hope I've presented my thoughts clearly.
I had not much time these last days to respond and sadly I saw that you downvoted again.
Even if I would agree with you, I really don't get it, why you are now having a vendetta against me? You just have to click on freesteem and you see min 3 accounts from the same guy, every post looks closely the same, that guy or some guys are giving back max 50% of the income, they take 50% for themselves and make a lot of money. They never get downvoted, why? Why do you target me and them mostly never. And I don't think they will respond to you like I do. So you want war? Or something like that...
This should not be a threat, but I can guarantee you one thing, if you don't stop this trolling on my account I will do 2 things, first I will set up min 5 bots. they will spam the hell out of steemit. I can do up to 288posts a day, on each account. And the only thing you can do against it? Downvote over 1000posts per day? I don't think so and I would not do it for the profits, I would do it to piss you off, even if I would make 0$, I still would do it..
Second I would set up another min 5 bots. They will spam under all your comments, you make on steemit! It would be really nice to have your account. A good solution then would be a new account? I don't know if you want that.
I will not do that if you start using your SP fair and square, because at the moment you are trying to destroy me, me! not the thing i am doing, just me, I was not the first to do this thing and I am by far not the one with the highest upvotes! Please just use your power split, if you don't like what I do, just downvote a post and move to the other 10 accounts that do the same shit.
And to be honest you can go through every daily contest and downvote them, because guess what, most of them do the same fucking thing as I do, they make a contest with the goal to get a rich account(thats what i am not doing) and give money to steemians. Noone would send daily pictures to a contest just to get the first place, they want the money and you know it.
I think we should just find a way here on steemit to live together quiet and peacefull, I want steem to success as well, but with this attitude you are just pushing out users and thats what steem needs the most! Think about it in real life, there are standing 90 people and everyone is for something and you are the only one that thinks something else, so everyone has to think the same because you have more power, what a system is that? I thought steemit is place to live free, not getting punshed in the face by a whale. And you are still the only(not one other person) complained about the lottery, it would be completely different if there were more people complaining, but no, you really are the only one...I don't know dude, you have the power on steemit and you are abusing it atm pretty hard on me, so as I said, tech is no problem for me, I can give you that honor right back at you and who would win? Noone would win, we would both lose...
Maybe we could think together of a way how I can continue with a great contest, that you would support by not downvoting? I have many great ideas for steem.
Or tell me how I should adopt the lottery to be ok for you!?
Sorry if some things sound confusing, its very late here...
I've downvoted several similar posters, but you happened to be one of the first I stumbled across. It's nothing personal against you. You still haven't responded to the actual reasons I provided for why I'm downvoting.
You could run a Steem lottery with people sending you SBD rather than funding it through the reward pool and I would have no objection to that. The problem is subverting the curation system to extract rewards.
So you are having a problem with the way steemit works?
and you are clearly attacking me, not others, they get sometimes some downvotes, not all the time, so please stop trying to be a hero for steemit here, you are just using your power in the wrong way and if steemit goes down because of people like you, I don't care. Everyone here has the right to give anyone his or her upvote, like you are using your downvote very often for nothing. I guess we are not getting along, i will close lucky steemian and I will relaunch a lot more bots like this, so you have less chance finding my accounts, since you are clearly against me. So why should I discuss further with you, when you just keep on downvoting? I think I just shouldn't like the other people that you don't care a shit about if they do stuff even worse....
wow you have downvoted them now, so you can say it's nothing against me, you are really a dude...wow
Ok I looked now at the stuff you downvoted, not even close to a full week, nice, so you still think this is not personal against me? Can you tell me what you are doing in real life? Because thats called trolling, you are just some troll with much to much power, you are a early adopter? So act like it and don't destroy steemit with stuff like this, because one shitty lottery with 2$ rewards would have been better then 1000+ posts per day, thats happening for sure.
please my friend, keep downvoting my 2$ posts, while you downvote not even half of other guys posts(they have 10+$ on many posts), you are doing such a great job for steemit! You must feel like opra every fucking day. And you still think you are doing something good for steemit, just loooooooool, only hilarious. Have fun with all my spam bots that will hunt steemit. I hope you are proud of yourself, helping steemit to get destroyed. Really a big congrats to you!
It's tragically ironic that you think I'm the one destroying Steem here. I don't have sufficient voting power to downvote all the abuse that actually is a threat to Steem. I get the impression you have no idea how the economics of the system actually works, so I don't think what you're doing is malicious and I have nothing against you personally.
Hello @troglodactyl, first of all, I want to apologize, I saw a lot of money going away and I really freaked out, but after some nights of good sleep I switched to your opinion, I really believe that steemit can succeed, so I want to invite you to my discord channel to maybe talk about a good solution, I think I could also help you with the other accounts, here is the link to the chennel: https://discord.gg/jMdKyk7, if you don't have discord or you don't wanna talk, just let me know here. I am really sorry how things went and I want to contribute something good for steemit, to make a little bit up. I don't like bad karma ;)
Hey, I haven't been around very much the last day or too and I don't use discord. I'm glad you want to see Steem succeed. What did you have in mind?
yeah you don't have enough, so you split your downvotes into some downvotes for others and the rest for me. Thats why I think you are attacking me and not only the system behind it.
Everyone else will continue posting because they still make profits, only I would have to close, only me! And thats why I will build other bots like this. Why should I stop with my 2$ reward posts, when fogel, simplemoney and minnow.helper get 10+$ posts every day and trust me, thats not 3 different persons, its most likely 1 and this person really takes away a lot of the reward pool. Still you prefer downvoting me...for reasons I don't get you still target me harder then him/them.
honolulu is also the same person, these 4 accounts also upvote each other all the time! I think he also created some other accounts, but they are too small to see them yet.
are you fucking autistic or what is wrong with you?!
As persuasive as this is, my mind remains unchanged. Try reading my position again (and maybe this too: https://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034) and give it another try.
wtf dude, are you really autistic? I will take everything back what I saied about you, I really did not know that you are a retard and you just try to have a good time online. Wtf is wrong with you? Are you trying to sell everybody some shit from amazon? Maybe you should just chill a little bit and move on with your life, even if it as bad as I think it is, it's still worth living, believe me! Just try to not suicide, or I have to feel bad for you! Please get your shit together or your 100.000 Steem will be worth 0 soon!
yeah i see.. you are autistic how you act.