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Cheers guys I think I'm on the right track then. Nothing better than paper even if it is a bit old school. The trade analysis on poloniex is a little skewed as you can buy something for BTC then then sell it later when it is worth more fiat for BTC but at the time BTC has gone up and you will get less BTC than you invested showing a loss but if converted to fiat would be a gain. All the mmore reason to be holding the BTC unless buying to specifically buy other alts.