Engagement is very important. The existing guilds look for engagement in the posts and will do so more once the comment rewards proposal is implemented.
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Engagement is very important. The existing guilds look for engagement in the posts and will do so more once the comment rewards proposal is implemented.
The comment rewards proposal is good, and a step in the right direction. The missing piece, however, is creating and maintaining autonomous creators and rewarding those who drive discussion and engage others. The Engagement Guild does this exact thing. Or, the possibility of an algorithm identifying social energy in the form of human comments, that's the other way that would not require a guild to be formed.
Comment rewards is a good idea but devs need to be careful to not reduce curation rewards % as this is currently the main reason why people are buying steem power. I think this percentage is too low even now.
I don't think you need a guild for this; I think you need to work with the design of the upcoming Communities and see if these can be tweaked to meet your preferences.
It's not a case of my preferences. I am mirroring the people I see on Steemit. Rewards are currently not going to the drivers of engagement. I see this as the root problem and I have yet to see this addressed with any viable solution.
Actually, I submitted Barry's post, the same one I referenced above into the #curie channel and I was told it did not meet the requirements, but was told that he would see what he could do.
I vote for the #curie posts every day lol
If it was the post I'm thinking of, I thought it was a great analysis and discussion. But the curation projects have guidelines that forbid voting on most Steemit-related posts, since our large accountholders' opinions are watched closely. If we put their names on something that has even a shred of a proposal or controversial opinion, then it looks like they're supporting it and that's trouble for everyone, including us. Not our place to make such votes. There is enough other content from diverse areas to support with those votes. Fortunately, controversial and Steemit-related posts generally get plenty of views from everyone, whales included, so they can decide what they want to vote on or not.
That's why there's a need for a new guild. The whales that support real organic engagement can help us drive Steemit into a high value engagement future which will make their investment grow.
Honestly, by attempting to control organic energy, the end result is stifling growth, which in turn makes people want to leave. Best to develop and cultivate those who inspire engagement...that's the easiest way to create fast network effects. @krnel, i'm curious what you think about this too.
You want to start a guild, but you're complaining about controlling organic energy? I would say voting power is distributed presently in a rather inorganic way, which is why large accounts need a bit of help finding the best stuff. And I am agreeing with you that engagement is an important measure of quality. Is it the only measure?
If someone writes a great fiction story on here, it may get a few comments and votes. Is diversity important enough that we should have a place for fiction? Sports, gaming, and news are big on some other sites like Reddit, but most of those posts don't get much traction here unless it involves betting. If people begin to post good pieces on here, should they be rewarded for working to create something that could be important and help build for the future? Engagement is important. So is diversity. So are certain fields that help bring us users.
These value choices are not as easy as you make them out to be.
I provided a viable solution which is not covered in the definition of "complaining". There is a difference. If I had just pointed out the flaws of the current system and not provided a complete roadmap and solution, then I would be "complaining". This was not created as a replacement for existing guilds, but as a complimentary project to promote organic growth and also to catch authors who generate large amounts of social energy, which is the real driver of growth and expansion.