I agree AND! As i have been saying. Its not sustainable for long term. As for friends??? Nowhere have i found friends like my steemit friends. My die hard feminists to wild out artists like YOU!
CURIE is amazing AND should stay. But it is not a bidbot alternative. We need much more people giving regular small votes. Guess what i used my curie money? Buying stuff from steemians and supporting women from sll over the world. I would LOVE for curie to grow their community accounts Because "hey i have a job that's sustainable!! Is much better than ! Hey i got an 80 dollar upvote when i made my stuff as apolitical as possible!! It will never happen again!! There is no V4V for people like me lol. Thank god i had curie to get me started. Now im using bidbots to create a more stable path for others like me. I ❤️ Curie but this conversation of curie vs bidbots is not helpful to me. Call for delegation sure but create a sustainable alternative before we put all our money in curie.
You know I love you but I honestly feel you don't see the bigger impact of vote selling. The part about "we need much more people giving regular small votes" is EXACTLY what vote selling is crippling. An ever increasing amount of the total vote power on platform is delegated to vote selling. It is going to hit 50% soon. Before the rise of vote selling, a huge chunk of available SP was just not voting, which meant that every small vote cast by a real human had a MUCH larger influence on the reward pool. The more of the total SP that goes to vote sellers, the less of an influence the small votes of real people have. That is a fact. There is no way around it. Big whales before, if they wanted to earn money from their SP, could either vote on other people's posting (earning curation rewards) or vote on their own posting (and run the risk of getting in flag wars with other big whales who disagree with self voting crap posting, see e.g. Haejin / Bernie). Now, big whales just delegate their SP to vote sellers and all that SP is used every day and the effect on small votes is HUGE. If you are advocating for an increase in people giving out smaller votes / more sustainability - you should be advocating against vote selling. The math is clear.
adding value to the Steem blockchain. And, as much as it pains me to admit it, he does add more value to Steem than the vast majority of the other top witnesses, fully half of whom are directly involved in vote selling! But I honestly believe every big Curie upvote is ALSO an advertisement for Steem, outside of the blockchain, and a much more effective form of advertising at that. Did you tell friends when you got your first big Curie vote? I am willing to bet you did. I am willing to bet everyone who received a big curie, told people about it. This is advertising for Steem, and the most effective form as well - advertising coming from trusted sources.But my broader point wasn't to pit Curie against Bid Bots. It was addressing a specific and very common criticism, that Curie doesn't really add value to the platform by giving out big votes. To me, there is a very clear and pressing need for MORE large votes given out based on the merits of content and not on someone paying for it. People often point to @jerrybanfield paying for ads for Steem and say, at least he is
To be very clear im making a list.
I don't not like buying votes. I do not agree that its good for the platform. I said there is no other sustainable option that whales are willing to adhere to.
Since October 2017 I have been a vote purist. I have resisted self voting, advocated for more unbiased curating similar to curie, argued/discussed/yelled about finding solutions with dolphins and witnesses galore. Guess what the bigest hinderAnce is? Freedom. Yep. Bidbots and flagging and whale spam are allowed because "freedom" and "liberty" .thats your real villain.
As a reviewer and person who has made a full time career out of curie, love you! But you are biased. If Curie succeeds-- you succeed. You are tooooo far in the Curie rabbit hole to tell me that I dont see the bigger picture! My goal is to help women around the world gain a sustainable income while combatting inequality. If steemit is a success--- i can do that. However Curie isnt going to get us there. Its great!! For new people!! A great way to keep "new authors" who arent political or religious excited about steemit.
It is not, however, a great advertising tool. I did tell people about my curie votes! And i felt do good and respectedand honored. But not one person came over from that. Why? Because I haven't made it sustainable able. Its just another flash in the pan. When I can live off steem earnings and still support my community-/ then i will truly be a steemambassador.
Bidbots are helping me get there with gaurunteed money. I do my part by not posting crap.
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Curie isnt a bid bot alternative. No one ever said that. Curie has its place in the ecosystem and does its job amazingly well.
Curie is just the first step on your steem journey.
But the impact of bots is quite clear. You call bid bots sustainable income, what i call it is short term gain/long term implosion of the steem based plaforms.
Consider if all large chunks of SP are delegated to bots. Atm its close to 50% and then you have the SP held by steemit.inc and the devs.
What happens?
Almost everything is locked up in bot delegation, minnows have nowhere to get an upvote from since most whales delegated their SP, they cant pay for bots because they have no liquid SBD, they wont invest because its stupid to pay your own money just to get on a ever growing max buy-in top trending spot.
Outside investors wont come here because what they see at first glance is literal, "put it in a bag and throw it off a cliff", mediocre to garbage content.
What youre left with is dtube that upvotes literal spam with a curation system that doesnt have any kind of rule or reason behind it, except rewarding those that can make the most of the same in the shortest amount of time. And im talking 30-40 low effort videos per week.
Once Ned takes away their delegation what are you left with?
A dead platform with content that no one watches or reads with trash payed for made most visible.
Thats what bots lead to.
Sure they have some surface level use, but looking deeper and long term at it they are a cancer to the steem blockchain. A cancer in every meaning of the word that will slowly but surely kill steem.
I feel like I'm speaking spanish here. I disagree with your assumptions. However, if Curie had a sustainable solution then none of us would need to have this discussion. I will use bid bots to pay my people until there is another alternative. We all im encourage each other and interact so there is zero chance of it becoming a place without discussion or interaction.
We really need to see analysis for whale and dolphins upvotes and self votes. Because the portion of bidbots rewards were not that high to me.
Steem is not going to be killed by bidbots! Why are people making these assumptions? If it was??? Solve the problem. If not? You are barking up the wrong tree.
I would really like to see some data from your assumptions because what you are saying is not true at all.
I just explained it to you. The only reason i can pay for bots is because i earn rewards from those that have the SP to reward me. Once all SP is locked up in delegations you have to pay for it. With what exactly will you pay for it?.....
And on your Curie offering a solution.
Its not on Curie to fix the system. We are all speaking from an individuals perspective.
Curie has its role as support, a motivator and it does its job well.
What youre saying is: well if Curie cant fix it (as if Carl is Curie) ill just continue cutting the branch on which we all sit.
Curie cant be the doctor, the mechanic, the firefighter, the policeman, etc.
Which is why we havr role allocation.
You wouldnt say that steemcleaners need to fix the problems listed, would you?
Anyone who is complaining about bidbots without fighting for a solution is a person that I will tell to fix it. I tried for months to push whales paying delegations. Apparently I failed but at least I tried. My new solution is to use bidbots until I am financially secure enough to support my team on my own.
I said data. I didn't ask for an explanation.
You are making assumptions. The irony is!?! This post is asking for delegations!! Put down the koolaid and do some research. I am a curie curator just like you. Actually ive been a curator longer than you. I am not your enemy.
Your longevity as a curator doesnt mean much really. Youre just making an argument from authority.
Im saying bid bots are cancer. And its really not their fault. They have a use. But automation of monetary distribution will kill steem.
Youre participating in that for your own personal gain which is ok and your right, but at least acknowledge that your actions are to detriment to the platform.
I use bots as well, like i used it yesterday to take my curie promotion post to trending, not once did i use it to promote what i primarily do on this platform. That is for the commmunity to decide if i deserve to be on trending.
But i acknowledge that im participating in the s..t culture that is ruining steem. But youre just defending your position and defending the clear sickness because youre participating in iT and attacking Curie of all things. What?
You have a need to shut up those that attack bid bots. Why?
I cant fix the human trafficking problem but i can talk about it.