This is a post for the Deadpost Initiative. Initiated by @whatamidoing.
This is the 3rd video in a series of live looping vids I did in a shack on Kudle Beach in India.
I called this project “Straight from the Cows Ear”.
Here’s the link to the original post: https://steempeak.com/music/@shookriya/6bk7395k
And here’s the video:
I gave you vote with my vote train because I even couldn't find the old post; Your link doesn't work.
Crossposts is something that can be done, but most curators and communities hate that feature and ignore the posts (incl the original); I usually do as well, but depends on other factors as well.
Ah thanks for that, i changed the link.
I know you have said before that you don’t like crossposts for some reason. But if a post is relevant to multiple communities (there are more than a few music and art communities that i am involved in) then I don’t understand why that would be an issue. Or even encouraged?
For instance this post is part of the deadpost initiative for which there is a community, but is also a live musical performance, for which there is a specific community, (hivestreet of which I am a moderator) and there are multiple general music communities as well as general art communities that encourage musical posts.
Should I deny these communities my musical genius because It is not natively posted there?
The other, perhaps bigger issue, is that I normally post with 3speak, though I could not yesterday as the site seams to be totally bugging out right now, and they have a very short list of communities that you can post into from that platform. Most of the communities that I subscribe to are not part of that list. This means that if i don’t crosspost then I can’t use communities at all.
I can inderstand why a community would not want irrelevant content being posted in their feed but i don’t understand why they would ignore good relevant content simply because the poster is part of multiple communities.
To be honest I feel like this whole communities thing kind of sucks. It’s seems to be divisive, it’s not intuitive, and it just adds more complexity to an already complex system. I don’t see what “communities” do that a decent search function wouldn’t besides take more of the creators cut of the rewards.
Anyway, I appreciate what you’re doing and thank you for the feedback. Perhaps you can link me to a good resource on community etiquette and usage? I would like to have a better understanding of this.
Sorry for the somewhat late response.
Agree communities is a bit of a pain at the moment. We had and still have tags, but they are not shown on the frontends anymore which is a big pain imho.
Some communities encourages crosspost, as indeed the Deadpost one. Actually I crossposted one a few days ago in that community. But this maybe an one time only event for me. You may not have too many autovoters, but every cross-post using the PeakD function is in fact a new post and autovoters will vote for the cross-post as if it is a new post. Over time, you'll either loose those autovoters because they dont like they voting for the same content multiple times, or what is more common: you'll continue to receive those autovotes since most autovoters dont research from time to time what they autovote for.
Since we are on a platform where we get paid money for what we post based on all these votes, cross-posting is a bad feature imho... as many curator groups think the same as I do.
I realise 3Speak is not connected to a community (as far as I know), so to get that content into a community is either corsspost (which I would discourage) or to create a new post, with your track + unique elements in your post. Ie your track will become just a (small) part of the new post. Then I would be perfectly ok. So for instance, if you would add a whole story of some sort to your track you already posted to 3Speak, and post this new post in eg Music community, then I'll vote for it. Even twice if I like the new post and its unique enough.
Am afraid there is no document with guidelines for communities. That is the whole thing here, we are decentralised where nobody have the absolute power to enforce rules and behaviour. But we have Hivewatchers and other groups who control large downvote accounts and blacklists and they go by the rules as described in the whitepaper of HIVE.
You may also consider not to post to 3Speak, but to YouTube or Soundcloud and link your music into a HIVE post in that way.
I have a personal opinion on what music posts should at least contain when musicians and artists published their own music, but that would mostly mean I'll not be able to vote for most of the original music posts, unfortunately. Therefore I relaxed my own rules, to be able to continue my work and give a boost to undervalued posts and authors on our platform. But when I still curate with larger vote values - I get from Curie and C-Cube/Square - when we have 10/100 times more traffic, I'll for sure re-instate my own rules for what I curate and what I simply skip. Those rules are kinda soft rules, but one element I find very important is: Express something with Text... HIVE is a blogging platform, its not a music sharing/streaming platform, although one can blog about music, 3rd party or your own, GREAT I love that! But many artists create their music, post it to gazillion music services including many in crypto space and go to create their next track and post it to many services again. Not so many are active in the social network itself; Some not even answering comments to their own posts. I hate the fact some large voters on our platform dont seem to care if a user is active or not, they give their vote anyway. But what I see is that when other more active users see this happens, over time I see more and more users taking shortcuts and in the end we will end up with what we had over at Steem: A dead community. Ok,. that was a little bit of a rant! Sorry about that :) As mentioned already, I relaxed my own rules to be able to continue spreading some of the rewards to those that deserves it with my focus on MUSIC related posts. I'll be seeing you for sure sometime in the near future, am pretty sure :)
Very interesting, thanks for taking the time to talk about that stuff. I was not aware of the whole autovote thing, I’m pretty sure I don’t have anyone autovoting me so I did not realize that they would end up voting every reiteration of a post. That does make it a bit spammy.
That is an interesting idea about creating a separate post as more of a hybrid blog post. Admittedly I’m not much of a writer, not really my outlet i guess. (That being said I am super active on the platform.) I think I will try that.
Many in the community weren't writer, but when trying over and over again, you'll be getting better in it Interesting, HIVE is in essence a platform for writing, that is its intend :)