That pathetic down face Trump was doing during the debacle that took place during the Zalensky visit isn't going to win him any academy awards nominations. In a bent over posture position, arms helplessly poised out down, would only serve to entertain his worldwide wrestling federation fan base. I can envision them now sitting around the boob tube proclaiming what a pickle he has himself into. With every "you see the hatred he has for Putin" that spews forth shaking their heads approvingly as it's impossible for them to engage beyond a thought, or a momentary given action in time.
Trump: "I am alive with the world and I want to get this thing over with. You see the hatred he's got for Putin. It's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate. He's got tremendous hatred."
It'll never clicked with them that a few moments later he provides the answer why Zalensky hates Putin so much. It's because Trump empowered him. Trump empowered him despite, as we seen with events on January 6th where he said he knew exactly what was going to happen, knowing full well what was going to happen.
Trump: "The problem is I've empowered you to be a tough guy, and I don't think you'd be a tough guy without the US, and your people are very brave, but you're either going to make a deal or we're out, and if were out, you'll fight it out.
Trump proceeds to tell him if he doesn't make a deal, and they no longer have US military equipment, the war will be done in two weeks. Trump continues on to tell him he doesn't have the cards, that he's buried here, and can't even manage to get enough people into his military.
When one starts talking about hate, exactly how much hate does it take to give a president of a country military equipment knowing full well he never stood a chance at winning, and in the end, there'd be no more farmers, carpenters or engineers to engage in the fight.
To add insult to injury, they repeatedly throughout the conversation remind him of how thankful he should be, and question if he's said thank you enough.
Vance: “I’m talking about the kind of diplomacy that’s going to end the destruction of your country. Mr. President, with respect, I think it’s disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president for trying to bring an end to this conflict.”
That's not the normal course for power when it comes to meetings with leaders of other countries. Those meetings are usually held out of the view of public eye, depending upon what's being discussed and its significance to either country's national security, reporters may or may not be allowed to attend, or given a brief summary afterwards of what took place and what is expected to be announced at the press conference. Zalensky has no ability to make a determination where the meeting will be held, there was prone to be moments of contention, this wasn't by any means a voluntary measure of trying to litigate the issues to the public by Zalensky, let alone do so in a disrespectful manner. He had no control over where the meeting would be held, he had no control over whether the press would be there or not. This was all on Trump, and he admitted so.
Vance: “Accept that there are disagreements, and let’s go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the American media when you’re wrong. We know that you’re wrong.”
Trump: “But you see, I think it’s good for the American people to see what’s going on. I think it’s very important. That’s why I kept this going so long. You have to be thankful.”
Trump allowed it to go on, he allowed it to happen in the oval office and he allowed it to be litigated to the American people instead of where it should have been properly conducted. One of the biggest tell all of why is in preparation to play the blame game.
Trump: “You’re not in a good position. You don’t have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards.”
Zelenskyy: “I’m not playing cards. I’m very serious, Mr. President. I’m very serious.”
Trump: “You’re playing cards. You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with World War III.”
Zelenskyy: “What are you speaking about?”
Trump: “You’re gambling with World War III. And what you’re doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country that’s backed you far more than a lot of people said they should have.”
Zalensky tries to convey an aura of innocents about WW III caused by the Ukraine conflict, how could he really after years of them speculating on such an event, ultimately though, the blame will fall on his shoulders rather than than the man who empowered him. Zalensky, on the other hand seemed rather insistent that our time across the pond is a coming, who knows, while all this was going on Trump was busy having the "supposed" documents carried back to Mar A Lago the FBI took, and he had Hegseth ordering the DOD to stop any future planned cyber securities operations on Russia. Really, when you want to talk about being disrespectful, there's nothing more disrespectful than taking documents that officially don't belong to you, advising Americans you are going to see things happen in this country you never seen before, and granting an unelected individual unfettered access to the whole of government, for the immediate interim the US may stay fairly study, but all hands are off the deck concerning Europe and where this goes. Trump has always wanted to get rid of NATO. When you are planning to take down free societies, you start by taking down any means to defend themselves. Tear down their military structures, revoking what you consider unnecessary security clearances, firing government employees, taking control over air aviation, and let a man run rampant throughout government who has told Americans he will do incomprehensible things to them.
That Zelenski/Trump discussion was achingly scripted. None of it was organic. Part of the production on the cave wall (Our screens). Plato was right.
Escape the Cave! (article): https://www.minds.com/AmaterasuSolar/blog/escape-the-cave-it-really-is-plato-s-cave-1703163101005746180
Trump knows how to pry money out of institutions, and that's exactly what he did, and got Zelensky to do, feeding on that incomparably vast public trough.
Which is a tell. As much as it pains me to admit, Amaterasusolar is absolutely right, that this was a pure propaganda event, I guess is preparatory to sneaking Zelensky out of the public eye, hopefully without triggering any investigations into where all the pilfered $billions are, because all the pilferers want to keep them, and not go to prison or be hanged for treason for pilfering them.
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