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RE: Trump, Play it again Scam

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While I haven't sunk my time into the sink that is your further expression of patently false claims, I have directly responded to your statements here. Do me the courtesy of doing the same.

"Life feeds on life, in every way that has been potential to it in ~4B years. Simpler parasitic mechanisms are no less guaranteed."

That principle is just ignored by you, and other claimants that there are no pathogens. Only by ignoring it can you resort to such flights of fancy, and that is why you ignore it.

"Human incompetence is a remarkably insignificant metric."

It doesn't matter if we can't prove these mechanisms exist. You can claim we are incompetent to do so all you want. That is utterly irrelevant to whether or not nature has sought to take advantage of opportunities to feed that exist, and nature takes advantage of every opportunity that exists. The default position is that nature is taking advantage of opportunities at microscopic scales to feed on life, because that is the principle nature demonstrably operates on. That leaves the burden of proof on you to demonstrate there are no pathogens. In fact the scientific method also demands you disprove what is not possible. That's how science works.

The voluminous and useless attention you devote to the lack of positive proof of pathogens is contrary to the scientific method, irrelevant to the discussion, and a complete waste of time.

Use the scientific method to disprove the actual hypothesis you disagree with, which is that pathogens exist, or remain as irrelevant as claims of lack of positive proof in every scientific field of inquiry. There is no such thing as positive proof. Quit claiming lack of positive proof, because it is absolutely fallacious and a complete waste of time. Science isn't magic. The word means knowledge. Demonstrate knowledge and you'll be relevant. I will diligently consider what you can demonstrate factually. I am not going to waste my time on logical fallacies that are the entirety of your arguments when you ignore the actual science I post in response.

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"...it is impossible to prove a chair."

It absolutely is impossible to prove a chair. You can post anything you want you think proves a chair, and I can provide numerous vectors of attack of that thesis. That's how science works. Regarding pathogens, you have the burden of proof to disprove that pathogens exist, just as I would have the burden of proof to show that chair isn't what you provide evidence of, and you do not do that.

Because the evidence I would provide to disprove a chair would not disprove a chair, chair remains a valid possibility that I could not disprove, and therefore you theory of chair would remain valid. That's all science can do. You cannot prove your evidence is of a chair. Newton's theories were so well supported mathematically they survived centuries of attempts to disprove them, and only when the evidence was shown to be disproved by a model that did explain physics that Newton could not did the theory of Relativity succeed Newton.

That's how we gain knowledge - science.

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I have psoriatic arthritis with bone spurs in My thumbs. Typing hurts. So when I would say the same thing I wrote an article on, I offer the article rather than typing it out again. I suppose I can just start copypasta-ing My articles for You if clicking a link is too challenging.

I am talking about viruses specifically and You are taking things off the rails.

Anyway. Do have a lovely life.

Viruses follow the same principles that all the universe does. If you have written a statement that directly addresses these issues and meets the standards of reasonable discussion, I have no problem with you pasting it, and will accord it every consideration it deserves. I have been 100% disabled since the 1990s because of injuries to my back. This week I roofed a house in three days, including carrying 90# bundles of shingles up a ladder to secure the property of a neighbor from the rain that today lashes that roof. Suffering is a part of life, and I commend to you your character that provides the strength to surmount it.

If you intend to support your claims, do.

You are asserting things about things no One has proven. They have proven bacteria,fungi, parasites. There is zero proof of viruses.

https://controlstudies.substack.com/p/is-virology-a-red-herring

https://controlstudies.substack.com/p/we-have-proved-viruses-dont-exist

https://mikestone.substack.com/p/fear-is-the-real-virus-addendum

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