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RE: Defend Yourself Against @GrumpyCat

in #delegation7 years ago

Okay, I should make a real reply while I'm waiting for the stupid 30-minute timer to upvote.

I personally dislike using flags to enforce what you personally think, but I understand why they're doing it. People are abusing the system to make money. Buying/selling votes is bad enough, but doing it at the last minute to ensure a larger payout is particularly sneaky. Some of them even actually make good posts, but they're just greedy. They want more and more money and found a loophole to make it.

I'm not going to tell people how to use their votes though. I'm just going to judge a post based on its merits. If it's a shit post, and someone upvoted it to an insane amount, self-vote or not, people should consider flagging it. People should also grow the fuck up and not revenge flag back. Flagging something because you're pissed at the user is fucking childish. But I suppose they too can waste their votes how they wish.

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Correct, that is my idea. Each person waste their VP equally rather it is a flag or an upvote. I also don't think users should have to protect the pool which is supposed to reward good content to counter bought votes.

Look at @freedom He has two options, self vote his own post for $2078 each 20 times per day for a total of almost $42,000 per day or rent out his delegation so many others can each other. So he is losing a ton of money daily, say he see's he is letting scammers buy votes with his delegation. Is it smart for a user like him to take a daily loss of money he could give himself as he is not earning $42,000 per day from the vote bot services or fund a project like @grumpy cat to help level the playing field.

People need to wise up and stop bitching they get got when purchasing votes and move the fuck on to the next post and do it without the use of bid-bots.

So the question people should really be asking is, is it better to just post and earn what you earn or make it so there is so much scamming that a user like freedom just rewards himself $42,000 a day and says fuck it this community is about only what they can get and not about what they can give.

That's an interesting way of looking at it. The social pressure is to vote for others though. Preferably minnows.

I say vote for whoever you want, but I'm hoping you'll decide to vote for something worthwhile. I'm not sure I am as trusting as the creators seem to have been, that people would vote for quality content though.

It is pretty funny that the two of us are basically friends and feel the same way about things but do not write on the same topics or find personal quality in the same post that we read.

I am going to tell a true story here about the 1st week I met @geekpowered
He made a pretty long winded post on Python that was very well written and easy to follow all while being very easy to follow. I read it, I didn't give a fuck about Python, found no personal use in the information provided in the post to be used by me personally.
I upvoted it, it was well done, it was informative, he knew his shit and that post in turn could help someone who wished to learn Python. To me that is value, it didn't matter that it was of no use to me personally. Steemit is a platform about sharing with the community.
He wasn't trying to get people to join a group, become a member of some discord channel or sell them some service outside of the steemit platform or become his follower on youtube or twitter. He provided a quality post that was a learning tool for anyone to find during the seven days it could be upvoted or in two years from now.
This is blockchain, this is eternal. Crypto post about pump and dump groups, or what coin did you buy this week or where you ate your lunch are fucking junk. They tend to fill hot and trending and the best advice I can give to any user is, the faster you learn there is no such thing as hot and trending those sections are mislabeled and should be called bought and paid for so people do not get confused on what quality is and what makes a good member of the community.
The hot and trending links at the top of the home page are a real problem for people who do not know that the shit at the top of the list is neither hot, trending or even worth reading 98% of the time.

I'm sure there are overlaps in our interests, just not the majority of what I talk about on here so far.

I have wanted to do that python book/series for a long time. Unfortunately I pushed myself too hard, and as a result every time I even think about working on it, I get filled with dread.

I didn't think I was going to make anywhere near that amount on it. I hoped I would make a bit. I came here to make content I want to make, and get paid to do it, without having to deal with an editor, even if it means making less. I didn't really expect to be writing so much fiction though.

I hope I'm adding value. At least at times. Other times I'm just treating it like a social network, and posting fun memes I don't expect to earn anything, but hope people like.

I don't really think about adding value to the platform directly. Neither when I'm posting or when I'm voting. I view this as a type of social network more than some it seems. I think it's alright to post normal thinks occasionally. I even somewhat enjoy making rants. But I don't expect them to earn a lot. Quite a few of them have earned more than I expected.

When I'm voting, I judge based on effort, quality (on multiple levels), enjoyability, etc. I totally upvote some everyday posts, because I do think they're an integral part of here. Blogs started as journals of sorts for many people. Theoretically I can imagine a blog about going to get a coffee and a danish that would totally be worth voting 100% at my old power, but in actuality, many of them are shit. I remember a post that actually made me unfollow someone, where they just took pictures of going to some stupid shot and talking about all the things they liked there. It sounded like a commercial for a random stupid shop. It felt like something anyone could do. There was no unique voice, and nothing of value.

Likewise, crypto posts should teach you the why, not just point out crap in such a perplexing way that even many that trade have trouble figuring out wtf you said.

I support "Hot" and "Trending" being placed in a sub menu, and more advanced algorythms being used. They're making enough, hire some fucking artificial intelligence experts FFS, so we can get recommended posts and whatever other algorythms they can come up with.

Or make a tab called promoted that any post which is paid to move it higher is placed. This needs to be done with post promoted on the steem promote which DESTROYS the SBD to get the post seen as well as with people promoting with SBD that they get back in an bought vote. One is trickery promotion only able to be used by those recycling the same money and those spending their money to be heard because they think their post is worth paying to promote.

I always check this information on steemworld.com when checking out new users to upvote.
Screenshot-2018-2-22 SteemWorld (beta).png

People not up-voting at least 30 members outside of their own comment section DO NOT DESERVE SUPPORT

The above is me, this is what @firedream voting looks like
Screenshot-2018-2-22 SteemWorld (beta)(1).png

So I am not sure who he supports as he replies to all of his own comments

Interesting technique!

I never pay attention to that. I just checked mine.

[ NA ] ( 0.00 % self, 432 upvotes, 260 accounts, last 7d )

XD I'm so proud of myself. I've been worried I haven't been able to get enough time to curate recently. Perhaps it should be a bit more distributed though...I'll have to work on that after I manage to get my vote back up.

BTW, I didn't mean "you" as in literally you. I meant "you" as in the general "you", a random person.

LOL, now, I feel like I am short changing users with my crappy votes, lol

It may be because of having no time while trying to work on something i believe more beneficial than giving my tiny upvotes...

FD.

And there lies the problem, your tiny vote can give hundreds of new users a vote in place of trying to re-reward those buy votes and getting a flag.