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RE: Pro-Impeachment Democrats, Ask Yourself This...

in #democrats5 years ago

Obviously Trump isn't going to be impeached... clearly. Republicans run the senate, and Democrats are too busy chasing after hearsay and ghosts.

Also your reply doesn't even disprove my original post... Who becomes president if Trump IS impeached and removed... please entertain me with your answer..

(FYI I'm a journalist, but hey.. you know more than I do... clearly by your response buttercup),

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No, he definitely will be impeached. He will probably not be convicted, these terms are different for a reason.

Also, your comment about democrats chasing what? Is that a conspiracy or are you just kidding?

Your original post makes no sense because it presumes democrats want pence as president or even care about that possibility. It ignores the actual politics in favor of what you learned reading wikipedia the other night.

If you're a journalist and you don't know the difference between impeachment and conviction, and think discussing a President Pence is even worth a single second.... then lmfao. The absolute state of american journalism.

If not Wikipedia then read something from NBC leftist news organizations about how impeachment works... I assume you wouldn't read a right-wing media outlet so here a left wing outlet...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/what-impeachment-how-does-it-work-10-facts-know-n1072451

"Congress derives the authority from the Constitution. The term "impeachment" is commonly used to mean removing someone from office, but it actually refers only to the filing of formal charges. If the House impeaches, the Senate then holds a trial on those charges to decide whether the officer — a president or any other federal official — should be removed and barred from holding federal office in the future."

So... repeat after me.....

Democrats have no power to formally convict him or remove him from office at the second stage, that power is maintained in the SENATE, not in the HOUSE. The Senate is the only one that can formally convict him, and the Senate is the only one that can get him removed, the house cannot vote on that.

NBC leftist news organizations

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Wow, I love how you're actually explaining to me what I told you beforehand like it's something I didn't know. This is incredible. I might make a video about this. Thanks for the laughs.

LMAO. Democrats hold no power to convict Trump. The senate holds the power and the Republicans run the senate... Trump isn't getting impeached, period.

dude... holy shit.

you just explained the difference between impeachment and conviction. You literally just did. It's in the text you copy/pasted. He WILL get impeached, but not convicted. You can't read your own writing????

The bolded section you posted only disproves the point you are trying to make. Impeachment is the filing of formal charges (performed by the House). You are trying to claim impeachment is the act of removing him from office. Are you off your rocker?

I am not trying to claim that, Im referring to some democrats thinking Trump being impeached in the house means he will be removed from office (hence look at my original post), its addressing some thoughts that democrats have about impeachment.

No, he isn't going to be impeached. Republicans run the Senate and the Republicans have the only authority to formally convict him. Democrats are just doing this impeachment inquiry for a show, they hold no actual power to convict him, that power remains in the Senate. That's political science in the USA 101...

"Your original post makes no sense because it presumes democrats want pence as president or even care about that possibility."

It makes perfect sense because if they actually impeach Trump and push for removal (which isn't mandatory in impeaching someon) then PENCE becomes president, that's how this works. It's not a matter if I presume that they want him as president, its a matter that if they push for it in the House and it reaches the Senate then regardless of their views on Pence, Pence will become president and republicans will remain in power. Since they don't hold the power to remove him from office their calls for impeachment is just all fluff and all of that "get him removed from office" rhetoric falls apart. Democrats don't have the legal authority to remove him from office after an impeachment inquiry.

If you're a journalist and you don't know the difference between impeachment and conviction, and think discussing a President Pence is even worth a single second.... then lmfao. The absolute state of American journalism.

I'm talking about being convicted and removed from office after an impeachment hearing. Which can only happen after the SENATE formally impeaches him and convicts him of a crime.

You need to read more about this because If you're actually trying to converse with me about this, I expect you to be informed on how impeachment works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment#United_States

From WIKI:
"In contrast to the British system, in the United States impeachment is only the first of two stages, and conviction during the second stage requires "the concurrence of two thirds of the members present".[29] Impeachment does not necessarily result in removal from office; it is only a legal statement of charges, parallel to an indictment in criminal law. An official who is impeached faces a second legislative vote (whether by the same body or another), which determines conviction, or failure to convict, on the charges embodied by the impeachment. Most constitutions require a supermajority to convict. Although the subject of the charge is criminal action, it does not constitute a criminal trial; the only question under consideration is the removal of the individual from office, and the possibilities of a subsequent vote preventing the removed official from ever again holding political office in the jurisdiction where he or she was removed."

I love how you start your reply by saying he won't be impeached, then delineate between the difference between conviction and impeachment, and then don't think to re-write the first paragraph. He will be impeached, but the chances of conviction are slim to none.

You are an idiot.

The Senate isn't going to impeach him, and thus no conviction, and no removal from office. It will pass the House most likely but it will die in the Senate. That's what I'm saying.

the senate has no say in impeachment, they rule over conviction.

It's fine to admit you didn't know the difference. If you did, I wouldn't be laughing at you. But you're quadrupling down on this stupid nonsense. He will get impeached, but not convicted. It's technically possible he could get disqualified but not convicted as well. But I doubt that.

the senate has no say in impeachment, they rule over conviction.
LOL, the senate has the final say on conviction if they believe the inquiry from the house. I've BEEN SAYING THAT POINT.. My topic was about REMOVING TRUMP FROM OFFICE, but you're conveniently ignoring that main point of my stance and continuing about the impeachment inquiry in the House.. The HOUSE cannot impeach and remove him from office, period... They can pass the impeachment in the house but he isn't going to get removed from office. That is my point. This impeachment is for show and it will end with Trump still in office.

you're so fucking clueless bro, this is getting pathetic.

I literally told you immediately that the "show" is for airing his dirty laundry and making him weaker in the election