Why do I need to explain? Do you explain why you give 100% upvotes to the users you do?
It's the same concept of rewards distribution I've explained elsewhere on your original post.
If we are going to go down the line of asking about every downvote decision then we need to do the same for every upvote decision.
Edit: I have now explained my decision to downvote on all the posts you highlighted above due to disagreement with rewards given and will provide explanations as to why I downvote in future on posts made.
The red flag is to impose a penalty on someone, so the receiver of the penalty should know why he is receiving the penalty.
It's nice of you to tell those you downvote about why. Because then that person and others know why you use downvote and can decide on it. and then it should be enough with a post to the user from you even if you then continue to downvote them again
There is no more red flag (at least on steemit.com; some other UIs may still use it). Actually there never was, the downvote was always a downvote, where people can express their opinion on payout value (just like upvoting and downvoting on every other site), but some genius decided to change the downvote to a flag, which made it into an attack (you did something wrong! Wave the red flag!).
Downvote simply means one thing, that the voter thought that the payout should be lower. Upvote means the voter thought that payout should be higher. That is all it means.
But it is appropriate to explain why a downvote is also done on good content that does not have much merit
So it is clear that this is being used incorrectly
I don't agree on expecting explanations. There is a good reason not to expect or demand that downvoters explain everything. Downvoting is not rewarded the way upvoting is. Anyone downvoting is either malicious or doing a public service. Malicious downvoters won't explain and demanding more uncompensated effort and explanations from those doing good by downvoting means that less people will be willing to do it.
Just as others have stated that upvotes don't get explanations, downvotes often won't either. Just accept it as the subjective opinion of the voter (even if you don't agree with it) and go on with life (which could include also making your own, contrary vote, or not).
Nothing you can do about it (other than vote differently/better).
I get that you're venting and that's understandable but in the end malicious people are going to be malicious. It is up to the good people to see they don't do too much damage.
Nothing is wrong with large payouts, I never said there was a problem with that. The problem has been with over- and under- rewarded posts and that's where our rewards distribution tools (the upvote and downvote) come in to play. In fact that's the whole reason for them as it's your way of saying if you think a post is over or under rewarded.
Unfortunately though, as you and I have talked about in other conversations (even with your kiwisteem account), no one is this objective - humans...🙂
I'll be writing a post about it all from a neutral stand point (Bluffer's Guide is being brought out of retirement) and then I'm staying well away from this topic forever haha!
Forgive me if I don't respond anymore to you on this or any other post after the one I'll be posting. I've said all I wanted to say here, made peace with everyone and have got more positive things to do for steem like sharing travel and Drum & Bass posts 😉
@xpilar
Why do I need to explain? Do you explain why you give 100% upvotes to the users you do?
It's the same concept of rewards distribution I've explained elsewhere on your original post.
If we are going to go down the line of asking about every downvote decision then we need to do the same for every upvote decision.
Edit: I have now explained my decision to downvote on all the posts you highlighted above due to disagreement with rewards given and will provide explanations as to why I downvote in future on posts made.
Thanks for the debate
Hi @nickyhavey
The red flag is to impose a penalty on someone, so the receiver of the penalty should know why he is receiving the penalty.
It's nice of you to tell those you downvote about why. Because then that person and others know why you use downvote and can decide on it. and then it should be enough with a post to the user from you even if you then continue to downvote them again
This is a great start, thank you very much
There is no more red flag (at least on steemit.com; some other UIs may still use it). Actually there never was, the downvote was always a downvote, where people can express their opinion on payout value (just like upvoting and downvoting on every other site), but some genius decided to change the downvote to a flag, which made it into an attack (you did something wrong! Wave the red flag!).
Downvote simply means one thing, that the voter thought that the payout should be lower. Upvote means the voter thought that payout should be higher. That is all it means.
thank's for your feedback @smooth
But it is appropriate to explain why a downvote is also done on good content that does not have much merit
So it is clear that this is being used incorrectly
I don't agree on expecting explanations. There is a good reason not to expect or demand that downvoters explain everything. Downvoting is not rewarded the way upvoting is. Anyone downvoting is either malicious or doing a public service. Malicious downvoters won't explain and demanding more uncompensated effort and explanations from those doing good by downvoting means that less people will be willing to do it.
Just as others have stated that upvotes don't get explanations, downvotes often won't either. Just accept it as the subjective opinion of the voter (even if you don't agree with it) and go on with life (which could include also making your own, contrary vote, or not).
Hi @smooth
I can't agree when it is malicious, it will ruin the platform
Nothing you can do about it (other than vote differently/better).
I get that you're venting and that's understandable but in the end malicious people are going to be malicious. It is up to the good people to see they don't do too much damage.
@joe.public
Appreciate the comment.
Nothing is wrong with large payouts, I never said there was a problem with that. The problem has been with over- and under- rewarded posts and that's where our rewards distribution tools (the upvote and downvote) come in to play. In fact that's the whole reason for them as it's your way of saying if you think a post is over or under rewarded.
Unfortunately though, as you and I have talked about in other conversations (even with your kiwisteem account), no one is this objective - humans...🙂
I'll be writing a post about it all from a neutral stand point (Bluffer's Guide is being brought out of retirement) and then I'm staying well away from this topic forever haha!
Forgive me if I don't respond anymore to you on this or any other post after the one I'll be posting. I've said all I wanted to say here, made peace with everyone and have got more positive things to do for steem like sharing travel and Drum & Bass posts 😉
Rock on bro
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