Free downvotes are here and no need to spare them!

in #downvotes5 years ago (edited)

A few weeks ago Steem changed to include a dedicated pool of downvoting power.

The downvote pool doesn't work like the main voting power. When using the main voting power pool a 100% upvote at full strength is worth 2% more than one right after (when at 98% VP).

The downvote power can be used much more freely without penalty. The effect of downvotes are the same whether you spare them by down-voting regularly every days or use them all at once every 5 days. (~13 full downvotes)

You can check the status of you voting power pools at https://steemd.com/@YOUR_USERNAME

Here is a test I ran that might help some of you visualize what I'm talking about.

Start at 23%

After 3 downvotes



Same decrease in Down-Voting power (DVP)

Same amount of negative rshares (effect)



There is a negligible difference between the rshares count of about 0.02% (0.0002) might be related to changes in Steem's global variables.



Important detail, Since HardFork 21 (HF21) there is a indirect relationship between total votes on a post (rshares) and rewards.
This difference between vote and reward is more pronounced when a post is around $4.00. So downvoting a post that is worth more than that will remove significantly more reward than a post already worth less.

Looking for something to downvote?
Check out the comments below for suggestions and enjoy the drama!

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You can also see your upvote and downvote pools easily on steempeak
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Uhh that's awesome information.
Now I will wait for the drama with a !BEER

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Thats an intersting fact about the downvote power not diminishing. I guess one could say it is more powerful than an upvote becuase 1+1= 2 it doesnt equal 1.9

I like to check my reserves on steemworld. There is a little triangke you can click in the big meter.

Interesting, I didn't even know it. Good that no penalty is on downvotes, so dont have to wait till it's recharged all the time.

Interesting. I had not noticed that in particular. It's also interesting how there's little downvote abuse. I guess the cost of engaging in "downvote wars" at the expense of higher curation rewards from normal interaction is the deterrent.

#newsteem is a lesson that keeps on teaching :)

Ah, that's handy. I wasn't entirely sure how the downvotes VP bar worked and was keeping mine highish because I thought it would have more impact. But now I won't, cheers!

Originally upvoted cause of the haejin flags but looks like you went overboard with using your own bid buying service so changed it into a downvote. Hope that wasn't too long for you not to read.

Du wirst mir fast sympathisch @acidyo

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Wish I could downvote this twice.

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Oh, Oh I want to be apart of the drama! Wait, but nothing is in the comments!

What will happen if I downvote after my downvote power reached zero? Will my upvote power decrease?

Yes, the regular voting power can still be used for both upvotes and downvotes.

Downvotes are murder.

Thanks, I didn't realise they worked this way.

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Yeah but you get flag wars galore, no?

I know everyone is expecting us all to do our part but if I start flagging with SteemSTEM and some anti-science whale starts flagging us and our users... we're doomed.

So forgive me for not joining in, at least with that account (and my account is worth roughly 0.0001c)

Nice information on downvoting. Now I understand the power of downvoting.

The free downvote system is bullshit honestly. It's already pissing me off and makes me want to cash out and invest elsewhere now.

Oh yeah also not to forget ever since the hard fork steems price is down 10 million in market cap which is roughly 20% I think those numbers speak for themselves of what people feel about the changes.

Bye.
:waveswithhand:

This has probably nothing to do with bitcoin being down approx the same % =D

Nah, certainly there is no relation. Because, man, since when any alt-coin was volatile to BTC movements? Impossibru! Never happened!

 5 years ago  Reveal Comment

No worries bro #newsteem will be almost
as popular with stakeholders as #newcoke.

Didn't you know that free downvotes means
Lambos and butterflies for all? Pretty soon
everyone will wtb steem just to get flagged!

Do like @baah power down to 500 steem and
then put a knife in your mouth, because that's
cool. Commies love to redistribute all the things.

The only problem is when the time comes to farm
the land, run the machines, & turn the dials; they
don't know their head from a hole in the ground.

That's when the real fun happens, they all turn
into zombies and start to feast upon one another.
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It means the small value steemians will not progress due to down vote.

Please do not downvote me but I thought you might find this post interesting.

https://steemit.com/downvotes/@acidyo/why-you-may-be-getting-downvoted

Proud SteemPeak user here
steempeak_banner.jpeg but one of the other sites in my STEEM toolbelt that I always have open in a tab is SteemWorld where you can also quickly check your UV and DV power, as well as mentions, upcoming rewards, claim all se tokens.. and much more!

A good place to find things to flag is watching the API pages of bid-bots. Now, I definitely don't believe one should DV a post just because the author paid for a vote, heck I still use some bid-bots.. more importantly, I feel it crosses the line in to bid-bot abuse when the content is crap or low value/quality and the author has bought 1, 2 or 8 bot votes for it..

I think we should always look at the content and judge for ourselves if the content alone deserves a DV.. Don't just irresponsibly DV trail the UVs of bots.. I consider that almost abuse in itself..

Good info about the way downvotes work but sorry, I disagree with the rewards given on this post and have given it a downvote.

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