The Ambiguity of Life
6 years ago in #dropintheocean by youhavewings (60)
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I must be a computer. I cannot see emojis. They pass my view like advertising I also ignore. I know people who talk in them in long strings, and I am sure I miss half of what they mean.
I'm old, so this may have something to do with it. I wonder now if people are using them even more than I think since I skip over them. Now I will pay attention to find out. Thank you for the head's up about this information. Very interesting!
I am older, too @fitinfun :) Half the time, I'm at a loss for the meaning behind them. I have quite a few younger friends (and some older) that use them as a second language ;) For me, I stick with happy or sad and interpret others' emoji's by the emotional quality attached. As long as I don't get any red, angry faces....I am good ' :)' I much prefer words. lol
Thank you so much for your comment
Haha! I have not even noticed the colors. Additionally, I have my media turned off now since I have a metered wifi plan. This just happened recently.
I have one window open where I can see pics if I need to but I'm mostly in text now. I noticed right away that I could work much faster and no be so distracted. So now I am not seeing emojis at all! I did not even think about this.
My one and only emoji is :) and I use it a lot. I sometimes get a colorful face out of it, but not often. I am pretty sure my son can talk in them. He is 25. I'm sure 10 year olds are fluent now.
Think quantum mechanics when ambiguity comes in ! Heard of the Schrödinger's cat ?
see Wikipedia here
Is there Ambiguity here?
Hi @sinlg
Very interesting! I wasn't familiar with the term schrodinger's cat but I was aware of many placebo studies done that resulted in the observer interfering with the outcome. I've always found that concept fascinating and thought-provoking.
Yes, I do believe that schrodinger's cat does fall into the category of ambiguous.
Such an interesting comment, thank you so much for sharing something new to me.
I might be a bit critical but art is ambiguous for the sake of being so, I feel that it is a forced aspect of "modern" art bordering on being fake. Many people are convoluted and will have the "sense" or explanation before the creation, thereby having removed the true ambiguity which I feel stems from a mixture of meaning, limited expression and emotion.
Truly ambiguous things really frustrate me and I have frustrated myself before with even my own things as I am still not able to say what they mean given the outside input of what others think they mean it tends to be a case of I did not think of that which is good merging my inner with the outer and giving me "control" thereby validating something. When I do however read or see other abstracts then I still tend to look for the concrete and hit a wall.
A good example would be https://steemit.com/myopia/@mineopoly/myopia-of-the-masses-a6076f7d7dd35 this poem and I felt quite frustrated that I could not clearly see the meaning or idea being conveyed. I still liked it but yeah shit pisses me off since if it is ambigius your interpretation should be correct right, but what if you can't interpret it so I feel kinda bad for the AI since I also do not think there is a requirement to model them after humans and instead focus on what they will become in their own right.
I get the art now a bit better and it is a playful example of ambiguity I stick to my original impression of is the chicken crossing the road and got crushed or taking a poop with the black line tracing its path :)
My oh my, Pen! Your whole comment is ambiguous to me and I will have to re-read it several times to come to a concrete meaning ;) So far my brain interpreted, "Ambiguity pisses me off!" hehe
Perhaps we are, at the heart, puzzle solvers. Puzzles produce a challenge to solve and life would be boring without puzzles to solve! The fact that you get frustrated tells me that solving the meaning, means something to you otherwise you wouldn't bother feeling frustrated about it.
I will not even begin to do a deep interpretation of abstract/minimalist art. LOL The only thing I can gather from it is whether or not the patterns and colors make me feel good or bad. Some though does border on insanity temper tantrums.
Yes, poetry is very much filled with ambiguity. And that poem you shared...hmmm I would interpret it to mean he feels you have to have a story to get curated by the magical curation fairies but he prefers putting out abstract thought with no punchline and doesn't appear to like the boards or those that exploit them. How does it correlate with the second poem? I'm not sure either. hmmm
The cover photo to the last photo with the bird is my play on the ambiguity of Joan Miro's ambiguous art series he did on a single black line against a white canvas (the one mentioned in the story with my child's interpretation of the artist running out of paint). I simply wanted to 'add a little color' and meaning to it...while being ambiguous in the process. Ambiguous humor ;)
Miro's black line series: https://www.tate.org.uk/context-comment/blogs/miros-minimal-series-painting-on-white-background
I like the explanation for his poem that makes a lot of sense. Yip when it comes to art, music etc I am of the mind "Is it nice?" and I do not give it much more thought other than that.
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BTW I don't think I would spend my time so deeply absorbed in topics like this if it weren't for the ambiguous nature of life and trying to understand its deeper meaning.
True, so long as it throws a bone with some meat on so a person can get stuck in a bit first instead of it just being a complete battle.
Culture, environment and whole lot shape our perspectives. AIs has limitations. I don't really understand emojis so I wonder how AIs can interrogate them, but that's what the research for anyways. Hope they make headways before they spend lots of money on research
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I much more prefer the unlimited potential of human creativity
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Fascinating topic. I am 45 and it wasn't until recently (about 1 year) that I started to use smart phones (only because it was a gift, I could not afford it). It has been a struggle to deal with whatsapp and groups and other social networks. I just can't.
I found this affirmation ironic
As you rightly pointed out, the result is the opposite. It has to be.
If anything, technology has turned us into more ambiguous and paradoxical creatures. We boast about being interconnected when we are more and more isolated. The larger our presence in the world via the virtual possibilities of the social networks, and the more followers we have, the harder it becomes to created real connections and real relationships, not only because of the obvious physical distance but because of the artificaility of the communication generated by the virtual forums.
We can see it here in Steemit. We are encourage to create and be part of communities, but the more communities we belong to, the harder it becomes to actually know the members of those communities and genuinely have significant interactions with them.
And then, even with the few members of these communites we may end up interacting with relative frequency, that interaction is always mediated by the virtual tools and subject to a certain level of artificiality.
I was very excited when people reported their experiences in the receny Steem fest because i could vicariously share what it must be like to actually meet those fellow steemians we might have been interacting for months but now on a human, real plane.
Such deep thoughts, @hlezama :) I would have to quote your entire comment as each part is significantly valid and thought-provoking.
I'm not really sure what the implications of the artificial world will have or is having on humankind but I can certainly feel it and see it - I just don't know what I'm looking at or how to interact with something that is artificial.
I think we as human beings require that interaction to be healthy in mind/body and soul. We can't lose sight of that.
Thank you for taking the time to share so much of your thoughts and ideas on this topic.
Enjoy your weekend
Thank you for the thought provoking post. My pleasure.
You too have a great weekend.
As a rather new individual here on steemit, I have learned some things about it; but one thing I totally do not understand is when someone like you, @youhavewings, writes a post like this that should be in textbooks and taught in the philosophy and psychology classes, why is it that in seven (7) days I cannot resteem this post?
This is the kind of post that should be reposted all the time; as far as I can see, as long as people exist, this is essential for helping students to critically think for themselves instead of following an agenda.
I think this is an awesome post, thanks @youhavewings.
Thank you, @jamerussell
What a complimentary comment. Critical thinking has always been an interest to me as well as philosophy and psychology :) Helpful in life.
This is a really interesting @youhavewings. You capture the essence of humanity's many faces. I guess it completely woven into our modern day lives to be ambiguous. Psychologically we wear so many masks just to function. There is work me, home me, child of a parent me, parent of a child me and all of these modalities we inhabit almost indoctrinate us to the ambiguities outside of the inner world.
Ha ha, I'm waxing philosophical (not sure how much sense I'm making 😉)and that is directly inspired by this excellent post.
I am just tickled to see your comment, @rag808
So true. This was one of those posts that took on its own life as I journey'd through it - it was very interesting what it ended up revealing. We really do wear so many masks and have so many perspectives - it's amazing to me that we are able to hold all these while simultaneously functioning in the outer world. Amazing!
Once I found the Maurice Ponty literature, I went through a little mind melt LOL His life's work is ambiguous in itself and ended up reflecting back in my writing - it is contagious! I promise, it will wear off. And you made perfect sense.
Thank you so much for your kind words
Well written and thought provoking. Viva la moji :)
Thank you!
LOL Absolutely!
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hi @youhavewings
nice post. More than ambiguity I would call it perception: each individual has his own personal vision of the world, each of us attributes a different meaning to our experiences based on our personal filter, defined by our values, needs, beliefs, beliefs which we are carriers. It is this moment of attribution of meaning that also defines our behavior: in front of a certain experience, in fact, individuals express an instinctive emotional reaction, which can be positive or negative.
Understanding that everyone interprets the world in their own way, attributing different meanings and values according to their personal significance and values, is a precious discovery for individuals: there are no absolutes to refer to and above all no one can hurt us if not ourselves with the meaning we give to the messages that are addressed to us.
Thank you for sharing
Hi @road2horizon
I can certainly see that perception plays a vital role in evaluating something that is ambiguous. We have a predisposition to perceive things in a certain way primarily through our own past experiences, expectations, motivations, beliefs, emotions, and even our culture.
But ambiguity falls more in line with multiple possibilities of meaning (that we derive from both set perceptions and those we gather from a more conceptual pallet of thought...the 'what if' grey area). For instance, the outside world is presenting a perception that I can clearly see, but my inside self is saying there is something amiss that I need to further evaluate in order to gain an accurate interpretation. Or perhaps someone says something that seems straightforward enough, however, you realize that the statement has far more meaning than the obvious - the words are just there as placeholders to go deeper. Poetry is a prime example of that - we don't take the words at face value, they are merely reflections of a much deeper meaning that provokes an image or feeling.
Ambiguity is often looked upon in a negative way, but I think it serves a role in pushing the boundaries of our understanding of ourselves and the possibilities (unlocked in a collaboration of multiple perceptions) of new ways of looking at life.
Yes, indeed!
That is true to a large degree. We are ultimately responsible for the message we carry - might as well be one that makes you happy.
Much love to you, @road2horizon
Wow! I'm pretty sure I'm no longer ambiguous about ambiguity!
Congratulations on the Curie @youhavewings. Such a high quality post!
I honestly don't have anything insightful to say - but i did think oh my goodness is it just me or is it easy to spot a psychologist (or a psych major) in the crowd ;)
So well written with great care in creating the cognisance of just how prevalent it is in our everyday processing of the world, everyday, every minute, every second!
Peace
Thank you so much @kchitrah
I think you over-estimate my abilities but it is an interesting and thought-provoking topic :)
Truly, thank you so much for such a positive comment - I am blushing and smiling at the same time (insert emoji here)
Peace
And You under estimate your impact.
Hmmm are we having an ambiguity moment here? ... Lol!!!
Nope, the list of comments, curations and votes agree with me - so ha!
It's okay to give yourself a moment to just take it all in. It's good for the soul. Not because of the recognition or approval on the outside - but that reflection of love from the outside for the same level of love you put into it from the inside are in resonance.
That's a moment worth cherishing right there.
I promise you it won't get to your head. Apparently Only 1% of the population is narcissist, the rest of us are chronically self deprecating!
Ah, this is such a lovely way of looking at it, @kchitrah An exchange of Love - I can relate to that.
No, no....I would rather keep my slate clean otherwise it would spell catastrophe for my creative process for sure.
I've read that narcissists make up 11% of the population - I have a couple in my family which probably explains my self-deprecating. So true. Sadly.
Thank you so much for your kind words
Hehehe ;) an exchange of love indeed! Nice summary - me likey!
11% is high! Geez ... I was reading through about it as well. Kinda needed to understand after an encounter. They said something about the others being mislabeled. But all this data from different places...hard to tell.
Regardless - coming into contact with one is like coming into contact with all! Sorry you have had to experience them @youhavewings.
You should just stand tall in your own being! Cuz you are a beautiful one xx
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It is very helpful to understand how a narcissist works.
I am truly sorry that you had an experience with one, too! You seem to have held onto your heart though, @kchitrah That's how strong you are ;)
You are such a beautiful person, too @kchitrah You just filled my heart up today and I thank you for that.
Much love to you
Awww, thank you love - as have you 💕💓
The greatest take away from that experience was self love. It's this huge convoluted topic sometimes, as it gets interpreted in so many ways.
But the hard hitting lesson i learnt was that unless i fill my cup up first and realise the abundance of love within - every interaction on the outside would be from a projection of lack.
As it turns out - my heart held onto me. Couldn't have held on this much without it. Has a "mind" of it's own.
Big warm hugs with much love and light xx
Have a great week ahead @youhavewings 💓
Smilies😍 Who doesn't love them!? I try to use them wherever possible. Even in business communications I can't do my work without them. Talking with all the different cultures here would make things unclear for everyone while communicating without smilies.
didn't know the gorilla test, but I forgot counting when I noticed the gorilla, what does that say about me..?🤔
I am definitely with you on the smilies :) I over-use them probably! LOL
50% of people saw the gorilla - I think it just means that you are better at concentrating on more than one thing at a time or perhaps not as good at pinpoint concentration? You are more aware and affected by what's in your environment/sight. My guess? What do you think it means?
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There are so many tangents within your post that the possibilities for my comment seem boundless. This is where I am...
Just deciding which emoji I should use.
;)
Decided eventually to go with the wink.
That about sums it up.....a labyrinth! LOL At least you're able to see over the hedge ;)
True. Still have no idea which direction to go in though. Lol!