Sorry but, I don't really get your premise here.
In the question if we should eat meat or if it is healthy for us, it doesn't matter really if we evolved to eat meat. Evolving to eat meat, just means having the capability to digest meat. But if we should eat meat, is a moral question and if it's healthy, is a dietary question, which probably is best directed at an ecotrophologist.
And also Charles Darwins book is over a 100 years old! If you want to learn about evolution, you shouldn't start with Darwin. Darwin is not the be and end all of evolution. Just to give an example of what Darwin didn't know, in fact couldn't have known, look at epigenetics. An entire mechanism of evolution we discovered way after his death. And there are a lot more things that Darwin didn't know or could only hypothesize about at his time and even things he got outright wrong. If you want to learn about evolution, Richard Dawkins would be a great place to start.
If you want to learn about Darwin himself, his own book, as well as a book, that called him a "mythmaker" in the title are not the most reliable sources either.
And finally reading the other side of things is important, I agree. But when it comes to well established scientific theories, critical scientific papers or peer reviews of the original paper are of more reliable quality than a book.
That's funny considering the fact that humans cannot assimilate anything for nutrition which the human body cannot liquefy. Which includes *ahem*... animal flesh. Aka: meat. Humans cannot liquefy animal flesh. We're all free to keep reading these out-dated industry marketing materials touted as "peer-review" science to the reader. And for those of us who are willing to look at this simple paradox: welcome to 2018, my friends! :D In fact, this information on nutrition was available further than 2000 years ago. Criticizing a book based on its age has the fatal assumption that people today are smarter. More education has never equated to more smarts.
When we have the medical industry practicing things 2000+ years ago in Roman times...then who cares if Charles Darwin's book is over 100 years old, right? A century is nothing compared to over 2 millennia--and this 2000+ years of medical industry practice is still useful today.
Besides, what Darwin describes can be compared and metamorphized to modern epigenetics anyways. Richard Dawkins' book is great for people who like dogma and religion; how ironic... and I am thankful that many great minds (such as Rupert Sheldrake) have spoken out against his rubbish. I would criticize Dawkins less if he actually made a contribution to society rather than re-write the same stagnant information presented by others whilst slamming people with interesting ideas that mentally ignore his "market share".
^-- that, my friend, is a rant :)
So the question is...
Why read Charles Darwin's book?
So many institutions tell you the story of Charles Darwin. They tell you "his beliefs" and "his findings" and his book is referenced as, "the thing that started it all! ...and btw, you don't need to read it... in fact, don't waste your time reading it. BETTER YET: our educational institution won't even require that you read it...and we'll keep you so damn busy that you'll never read it anyways... yay! :D" I am dramatizing this for effect, and I exaggerate so this example stands out. This is a common tactic of institutions when their business depends on the educational agenda they are pushing. Most of it is political, and many professors I know agree...some reluctantly, many agree openly.
I was horrified to find out that no geneticists I knew had ever read Charles Darwin; instead, they just assumed that their textbooks would give them all of the answers. Indeed, when the text book gives you all of the answers, what incentive do you have to actually go out, think for yourself, read for yourself, and discover that the common institutional story about Darwin is likely not what Darin was all about?
@phoneinf , I am happy that you're reading this book :)
read Charles Darwin's Origin of Species? I don't need to know the answer for this, this is for you two personally :)So ask yourself (@svkrulze and @angrybunny), have you actually
"these out-dated industry marketing materials touted as "peer-review" science to the reader"
Conspiracy theory much? You know that every scientific discovery has to go through peer review, right? If the process wouldn't work, all our modern devices wouldn't work. The device you've typed this on included.
You also know what peer review exactly is? It usually means, that you send your paper to a scientific journal and the journal choses someone to review it. And that's the crux of the matter. Any Scientist can try to reproduce any finding they want. If they fail to do so, the scientific journal loses credibility, no scientist would read it. Scientific journals release papers from scientists all over the world. From any researcher team, that submits papers, if those hold up to scrutiny. It is the bread and butter of any one of the well trusted scientific journals to stay, well, well trusted. To claim that peer review doesn't work, would be to claim, that every single scientist on the planet would be in on a conspiracy, to a point where they even defend findings of scientists, that work for rivalling companies. Which would be mind boggeling nonsense.
And you wouldn't have to research wether humans can dissolve meat (you're right, btw, we don't liquefy meat, we dissolve it). You know why? Because we have litterally billions of people on the planet, that eat meat on a daily basis. And there's something at least 99% of all those people have in common. They don't excrete undigested meat. It's that simple. I mean, try to eat something we actually cannot digest, like plastic. If the chunks you swallow are big enough, they will clog up your digestive system. And if they don't, you can watch them come out of you again unchanged. That doesn't happen with meat.
"then who cares if Charles Darwin's book is over 100 years old, right?"
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't trying to say, that Darwins book is worthless. It obviously isn't, he is still a very important researcher up to this date. But just like Newton for instance, his findings are outdated. In the sense that they are not false but part of a much bigger picture.
In science old findings are continuously reproduced with new equipment and new knowledge on the subject. Some of the findings are updated, some are replaced, some if not most are just validated yet again. And if you were to study biology, I'm sure you have to learn about Darwin, at least historically speaking.
But that's because you have to understand as a scientist, how we came to the knowledge we have today. For someone, who isn't a scientist or aspiring to become one, contemporary literature is a much better place to start. And I mean start btw. If the field interests you and you want to know more about how it developed, by all means, read Darwin. And don't stop there, read Lamarck too and every other big name in the field. Just get a broad understanding of what we know today, before you risk to memorize outdated data.
"I would criticize Dawkins less if he actually made a contribution to society"
But he did! He released papers. He was a professor. His books are not for biologists, they learn those things in school anyway. They are for non scientists and scientists of other fields. Because many scientific papers are a lot harder to understand without having a profound knowledge of the subject matter to begin with. And how is it not a contribution to society, that thanks to people like Richard Dawkins, you don't have to have a degree in biology in order to understand it rudimentary at least?
"Indeed, when the text book gives you all of the answers, what incentive do you have to actually go out, think for yourself"
To be worth anything in the natural sciences today, you have to have a phd. And what that means is, you have to have released at least one paper with a completely new discovery in it. And it has to withstand peer review. And afterwards, some of those scientists become researchers. They have to discover new things, because it's their job. I mean besides, that they probably want to anyway, they wouldn't have become researchers otherwise.
There's your incentive.
The textbooks give you all the answers, that we discovered up to this point. That includes Darwins findings. To suggest, that we have to read Darwin, to learn about his findings, is quite frankly, nonsense.
Extremist much? :) Judge much? “You have to have a PhD” - Dogmatic much? Assume others’ experience much? Underestimate others much?
“And if you were to study biology...” - I’m glad you have a sense of humor :) upvote for that.
Liquefy = dissolve. Help yourself to a science book or a dictionary for help on this one.
Richard Dawkins is still just as dogmatic as those he criticizes for being dogmatic. And I love calling him out. And I’m glad to see that myself pointing out the truth has shaken you to your core. Enjoy the rest of your day :)
Point Proven: you haven’t bothered to read Origin of Species, and you type away as if you had room to talk about material you haven’t read in the first place. Contradiction much?
Case Closed
I never say one should not read Darwin. Without getting into a debate, all I want to say is my suggestion for Dawkins was to provide a modern view of things. One can always read Darwin, but all books as you would agree I believe need to be read in the context of the times and beliefs.
Just today I was listening to a podcast about arguably the first thinker in Western Philosophy (the first of the pre-Socratic era)... can't remember his name. He proposed that magnets had life, that doesn't make him an idiot because he was trying to interpret his world based on what he knew from available literature (mostly religious myth). He didn't agree with religious explanations of gods causing everything. His explanations were often wrong, but he was right on many things, for example, he figured out the relationship of good rains with a good harvest and made a lot of money using his understanding.
I so wholeheartedly agree with this comment. I think rather than Origin of Species, a better place to start is The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins. Origin of Species just started a conversation which has itself evolved over the past 200 years