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I guess my point is this guy and this problem are paper frauds. He spends his whole life in court attempting not to pay for things and to bypass NYS broken laws and legal systems etc.

But you are right. Business maybe, but these people shuck a dud spud on you all in NY and now DC.

Trump overall is a con-man and I don't see that anyone can succeed legally in NY Real Estate generally. Trump talks out of both sides of his face and this is done to seem perfect.

Problem is he made it too far. Reigned in is right.

Makes you wonder how many bodies are buried beneath Trump's really big REIT deals?

And I later learned more about Eliot Spitzer who has family and money in NYS real estate. It all stinks.