Dustsweeper is still alive

in #dustsweeper5 years ago

Quick update to let you know that Dusty is still alive. Except for a few comments in the Discord server, there has been a complete lack of updates. Dusty had a very uncertain future and I truly apologise for not bringing you more information.


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Up until last weekend, I wasn't 100% sure if I should keep Dustsweeper running or not. I have been going through some tough times, stress-related issues, and was struggling to find motivation and to focus on even the simplest of tasks. The situation has improved but after the "double-HF" I thought it would be a good time to slow down and to stop Dustsweeper for good. The changes introduced with HF21 made Dustsweeper way less effective, so I thought it would be a good moment to stop.

But as the rumours spread of Dusty's death, more and more users reached out to show their support, and to tell me how sad they were to see Dusty go.

I had almost made up my mind to stop Dustsweeper and to just refund all users, but as more users reached out I started to reconsider. I was still struggling to find the motivation to look at the required code changes, but funny enough that changed when Dustsweeper's "rival", Dustbunny's owner, @fraenk, reached out and asked how it was going. After some chatting on Discord he convinced me that it is really simple. 😀He even shared a snippet from Dustbunny's code to make my life easy.

So I didn't really have any excuses any more, so off I went to get Dustsweeper running again. Thank you @fraenk for the final push. ;)

Updated dust votes

With the newly found motivation, I even managed to push an update which I've considered for some time. And it fits perfectly with the reduced effectiveness post-HF21.

Since the start, Dustsweeper has always upvoted with a fixed amount. No matter the current value, Dustsweeper has always voted with "roughly" $0.024. Initially, we implemented it like that to make it easy for users to understand the costs, 1SBD equals 40 votes etc. It also helped to overcome a limitation in pre-HF20 where votes with less than 0.5% vote weight wouldn't save any voting power compared to a 0.5% vote. Basically limiting the daily max votes to 2000.

So to make Dusty more effective in sweeping dust, the upvote value will now be variable. Dusty will vote only what is necessary to push the value above $0.024. $0.024 should be enough to keep the value above $0.020 before the payout time.

(I wrote "roughly $0.024" above as the value is not perfectly fixed. Because of a built-in rounding algorithm in the blockchain, a fixed value with $0.001 precision cannot be guaranteed. So Dusty will push the value above $0.024 and as close to it as possible, but this could go up to around $0.030.)

I hope you are happy to have Dusty back

As you probably know, @dustsweeper requires a lot of SP to operate, the more the merrier basically... 😀

In case you didn't know, @dustsweeper has since a few months back a delegation service. Users delegating to @dustsweeper will receive a share of all deposits made to @dustsweeper. Please read more about it here: Invest in Dustsweeper

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Cool. I’ll need to stock up again.

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Good stuff! 😃
Thanks for dropping a comment

Sorry to hear you've been going through tough times. I hope things continue to improve for you.

thanks for your efforts with Dust Sweeper. 💙

It’s getting better so I’m happy about that.

It’s also a relief Dusty is back, I hope everything will turn out ok and that we can raise some more SP.

I love the news. I am really happy for this :D
I will be delegating sp back to dusty when I get it back :D
Also I read it was 0.3$ the new threshold was, as I wrote on discord, but I might be wrong

Good stuff! 👍

Where did you hear about $0.03 as the threshold?
It hasn’t changed and is still at $0.02.

Some random post on steem who doesn't know what he is talking about, apparently :p
I cant even find the post right now xD
But I am trusting you more than just some random post xD

I have always appreciated Dustsweeper - even if it (maybe) wasn't that efficient. But it is a great way yo help smaller steemians who still feel the loss of every reward that turned to dust. Glad to see it going on!

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The drop in the steem price made, unfortunately, the service less and less effective. Let's see what the future will bring. A higher price and some more SP could do wonders.

Happy to see dustsweeper is still around! :) It would really help if comment voting would be back too some way...

Awesome sauce :D

Let's make rewarding engagement sexy again!

A little sweep here, a bit of fluff there, because every vote should matter.

Let’s vote some dust to have some work lined up for the dust-workers

hehe... one thing's for certain... there's never not enough dust around :P

Great to see it back! For a small community project like ours, it was a huge difference!

Thank you for the encouraging news here @danielsaori! Good to hear that you are feeling better. I hope the grey skies continue to give way to clear skies ahead for you!

Are you also still maintaining your Witness?

I’m still maintaining my witness even though it’s a money drainer atm. Didn’t feel to switch it off just because of the negative roi.
Hopefully we will see a higher steem price soon

Yes sir ...

"Hopefully we will see a higher steem price soon"

... that would certainly nice @danielsaori. But ... At the moment, it is going the other direction ... 😞

If you would please help me, given your expertise on the subject, I still am confused about the "dust vote" amount, after HF 21/22. Does the full upvote amount have to be over $0.02? Or does the 50 / 50 split amount have to be over $0.02, i.e. the full upvote amount has to be over $0.04?

It is the full upvote amount, so what you see when looking at the value on steemit.com etc.

Okay, thank you @danielsaori! Then, this upvote I just gave you should reach you vs. just "poof" and getting burned.

Great job Daniel... you're awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay!!
Sorry for the confusion Dave... "I think I will stop. I'm sure I will stop. ok, I stop! Actually, I will not stop..." :)

hahaha... that's funny... but honestly I'm shocked you found a way to make it work... You're the man!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome back Dusty. Big shout out to @danielsaori & @fraenk for making this happen.

Thank you! May Dustsweeper live for a long time to come

Upvoted and resteemed my friend. I was just asking a friend and discord if your wonderful service was still going. For some reason, possibly just not hearing from the account, I thought maybe it had been shut down also. So great news that you're still around helping out the new guys. I'm trying my best to do the same thing. I have started the Doer-minnows project, inspired by you, Asher, Dave and a few others that are so great with the new bees and have been so great to me. I will also delegate to this cause. I'm currently on my mobile, but we'll do it here in just a little bit.

And I'm also sorry to hear about you having a stressful go. I personally know that they could be rough brother. I've had a couple of those spells here lately, but luckily life is doing pretty good for me right now. I hope that you have figured out whatever it was that was causing you stress and have figured out a solution. I also wish you and your family the best and send all of my love your way.

Thanks for the kind words John!
I'm sorry about the various rumours. I caused most of the mess myself, mainly by not providing more information. I also told @davemccoy last week that I would for sure stop, just to get back to him a couple of days later to say I will give it a go. :)

Great news about the Doer Minnows project. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope it will turn into something valuable for minnows. I will get in touch with you on Discord to ask more about the project.

I'm just glad you decided to stick with it....and that it is possible. I have a question though, how is it again I send the money for dust coverage?

Just transfer a small amount, steem or sbd, to @dustsweeper. You don't have to put anything in the memo if it is for you.

Schön zu hören das es weiter geht 👍 Danke Dusty
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how does it work?

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Really ! that is astonishing. Thank you

@futuremind did the same thing for me.

I had seen a post where you had said that @dustsweeper and @dustbunny used different mechanisms so using both would compliment each other, is that still the case?

Do curation rewards have a different threshold, because there have been times I've had 0.001 SP or 0.002 SP paid out in curation rewards since HF21/22 so I thought payout was 0.02?

They do exactly the same thing, they upvote posts/comments with dust, above the $0.02 threshold. What differs is the way you activate each service.

For @dustsweeper you have to transfer steem/sbd and keep an active balance, this balance is used when Dustsweeper votes. The amount subtracted from your balance equals the amount you receive as author rewards. So your profit is purely the dust votes, that otherwise would have been lost.

For @dustbunny there is both a free version and a paid/VIP version. By delegating SP to Dustbunny you achieve a higher status and will receive more votes. For the free version, you can just make a comment on a recent Dustbunny post asking to be added to the list.

Even though they do the same thing, they complement each other very well. Both services will never vote on the same post as the first service to vote will push the value above $0.02 and then it will be skipped by the other.

So glad Dusty still around!!!!

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Thanks for keeping the chain dust free :D

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"No dust, no life" :)
That's a tagline hard to steal

"No dust, no life" :)
That's a tagline hard to steal

Welcome back Dusty!

And it was so nice to hear that you got support by another Steemian! Such kind of things make me much more positive about the future of our ecosystem.

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This is such good news! Wishing Dusty and Dustbunny all the best!

Thank you! We'll try to keep an eye on your Dust.

This is really great news, and I saw Dusty had started to vote on my dust again, keep up the great work and stay awesome.

Great news guys, I don't care for dusting so I really appreciate you guys coming along and cleaning up after me.....lol. Thank you!

Let's do a test to see if dustsweeper or dustbunny will pass by

So thankful for dustsweeper! I didn't know you were thinking of stopping, I'm glad your fans and supporters gave you reason to reconsider!
Times can be tough, hope you get to feeling better soon.

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Glad to see Dusty back in service. Was sad to read rumors of potential closure. I upvote most of the comments on my posts, but my own vote is typically not enough to go above the payout threshold. Hence, I have been advocating to use @dustsweeper.

Also, I hope that you got through your rough patch. I too am going through some struggles for the past 2 months. Hope we can both persevere and wish that things get better soon!

Dusty is happy to be back as well. 😃
And it’s great to see many people delegating.

It’s getting better on my end, just trying to take it slow and easy. Hope you are doing fine as well! 👍

Glad to know that you are stil here. My witness vote goes for you.. 👍

Awesome! Thank you for your support.

This is the best news ever! I was sad to see that things were quiet on this front! I have done delegation coming back to me, I will sure some bounces back out to @dustsweeper! Not much but every little bit helps...

I'm sorry about the silence. Hopefully Dusty will be safe and here to stay for a long time.
All delegations will definitely help. Only in the last 24hours, the total new number of small delegations have reached more than 500SP.

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Good to hear you are back at work and finally came with an update.

It was not a rumor dusty stopped but true and many lost their motivation (and more) after the latest HF and left.

It would be helpful to have some delegation options build in.
I will delegate SP again and update the info.
Happy Saturday 👍🏻💕

Oh wow thanks for the update. No wonder I have been getting upvotes recently. I totally forgot abt it and thought maybe nobody was voting my comments that's why I haven't been getting any dustsweeper upvotes.

Nice to know it's still alive. Oh my the dust value has gone up. 😅

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So.... people pay you to upvote their comments?

Interesting concept @dustsweeper, you have my vote for Witness, Daniel.

I was living in Brisbane, Australia when we had massive dust storms two days running just before the seven year drought broke. Please aim your broom towards Adelaide next time?

I'm glad there is dust sweeper. When I didn't know about the dust threshold I was getting so frustrated seeing low earning posts jump to zero without a reason

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It needs to be $0.02 after curation rewards to payout.

I see @fraenk already provided the correct answer. As a Dust sweeper I would be toast if I got that wrong. 😉

Not sure why you got greyed...but you're BACK!!😁😁

That's exactly how I felt for a few weeks. I was grey, but now I'm back. 😁

ummmm... nope... that dust threshold gets applied before curation rewards get split away.

You are right, I actually dug into the code and confirmed it.
I am not sure why so many people have said this in the past (who I assumed where right as they were big names) and I was dumb to just keep repeating it.

It is clear dust is cleared before assigning curation and beneficiaries.

well, I'm not gonna say I told you so, but in fact, I did tell you so :P jk