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RE: What is Patriarchy: a society led by men or a society led by fear and a feeling of scarcity which happens to be an environment in which the masculine takes charge?

in #ecotrain7 years ago

There's nothing wrong with being a man. We women like men to hold the door for us and carry our heavy bags in to the train, it makes us like jelly for you guys ( it's really that easy ,yes) We just want all men ( and women) to remember how they like women, how they need them and how to give them and the feminine qualities in all of us the space they deserve.

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You are right Clara, i was too fast in my reaction and didn't absorb fully what you were saying. The true message is in the last 2 lines, i was bounced off by '...how they like and need them...'

Oh, I didn't even read the first reply yet. Yes, I fully acknowledge how it's the feminine qualities in BOTH men and women that are suppressed By BOTH men AND women, darling. I was cheering you on :-)

Off course there is nothing wrong with being a man :-)

"We just want...."

No expectations Clara

The expectation that the subjugation of women end and the honoring of feminine energy begin is a reasonable one. She's not asking men to be a certain way. She is asking for an end to toxic masculinity.

You're right, i owe her an apology, thanks for pointing it out.

You just totally and completely swooned my heart @bubke.

Yes, I do definitely have expectations there. Of both men AND women, to acknowledge feminine qualities and give them the space/rewards whatever they need. For women specifically, but also men with feminine qualities it is very important to be acknowledged as they have been under-acknowledged for so long. So yes, please DO tell them you need them, like them etc, there's absolutely no shame in that. Yay for femininity!