Education: What to do about it...

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I wrote a post about the blindness instilled by most modern education a couple of days ago and @pjcswart asked a very good question "How do you propose it should be done?" I did reply and I shared some of my thoughts that came to me at that moment. I decided that was actually something I would like to post about today.

The first thing I would like to say is that NOTHING about education should be set in stone. It needs to be adjustable and adapt to the students. It needs to adapt and incorporate techniques that do a better job.

The second thing is that it needs to be honest. Reality is not about making your particular country out to be the shining light that can never do wrong. Reality requires us to acknowledge our failures as well as our successes. To do otherwise simply changes history into a carefully crafted propaganda piece. Education should be about seeking the facts, acknowledging them and keeping a view of the truth that we are willing to change as we are presented with new facts.

The third thing is to seek the passion, and the love for learning. If you can start that fire in the mind of a student then they will be a self learning machine that NEVER stops learning in and out of a classroom. In fact at that point if you get in the way of their learning they'll likely walk right over you and keep at it.

The fourth thing is to teach critical thinking at a very early age. When I use the term critical thinking it is not as a simple phrase that you typically see in modern education yet they barely teach it at all. In fact it seems many of the educators are completely oblivious to it themselves. Yet, it is the key to being able to speak with people you disagree with and learn from them. We can potentially learn far more in civil discussions with those that we disagree with than we can by simply speaking to people that already agree with us and know similar things. They disagree because they have different ideas, beliefs, facts, and a different mental picture of "truth" than you do. We need to not view this as a bad thing. I'll speak more on this in a moment.

Now let's revisit each of these points in a bit more detail as though they are simple points they are quite broad in implication.

Do not caste in Stone


We need to not be so rigid in our approach to education. The answer to problems is not necessarily going to be solved by throwing more money at the problem. In fact, at a certain point if there is a flaw in the approach more money will not actually do anything and could potentially increase problems. We need to observe what other nations, communes, families, etc are doing and continually be willing to adapt and change our education system.

The most important thing in this regard is to stop trying to force students into a mold. Stop treating it like a one size fits all solution. Instead of forcing them into a mold we need to adapt to their needs and only use our educational approach as potential ramps for launching the child into the world of self education and love of learning.


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In modern era people have observed some of the positive results of other countries. Yet, they keep on pushing things the same as they always have. They complain that there isn't enough money. If you unlock the fire in a student's mind then it won't require a lot of money. It just requires access and someone to mentor them through the process.

Honesty


We need to be honest. We need to acknowledge failures as well as successes and learn from them both. We need to teach that it is completely okay and natural to be wrong and to make mistakes. We simply need to acknowledge them and learn from them. We also need to learn to not condemn others for mistakes if it is clear they acknowledged them and are learning from them.


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We need to stop only showing the good things in history when it comes to our individual nations. We need the facts, and let the students draw their own conclusions rather than force feeding them what their conclusions should be. For forcing the conclusions is nothing more than propaganda and indoctrination. We should not be doing this if our goal is to educate.

Ignite the Fire in their mind


I personally believe this is one of the more important things we can do. We need to ignite the fire in the mind of the student. What I mean by this is we need to help them learn to love learning, and to have a strong passion in it. If we can achieve this then the job of the educator will become an easy one. At that point it will be more about giving the student access, and guiding them towards mentors that can help them.


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The key to this fire is to not try to force them to learn everything the same as everyone else. Instead expose them to many things and look for those sparks of interest. If we can find that thing or things that truly ignite their passion then we will know it. We then should encourage that passion.

Once a person loves learning they will not stop and there is no end. The attitude of "I am graduating from High School and am now an adult, and I've learned what I need, but I can go to college if I want" will be gone. In truth, we never stop learning. We never reach the ending where we know everything and no longer need to learn. So a passion and love of learning is a thing once ignited that should never die out.

We need to realize that this passion will end up being the guide for a lot of this student's education. They may not focus on certain fields of study as much as other people. This is okay. Let them find their way. They may never advance beyond basic math, basic history, etc. Yet they may excel in arts and take them somewhere else. They may never have an interest in the arts but might find a great love for math, and sciences. The passion will take them farther than a forced MOLD we have attempted to push them into.

We also need to change the early perceptions that someone learning a lot of any topic, skill, etc is a bad thing. We need to exalt in students who find that passion.

There are many famous people that did amazing things in science, technology, and art. Many of them were traditionally horrible students. Fortunately, they seemed to find their passion and at that point they succeeded despite the efforts of the education system to force them into a mold. Good thing for us.

Critical Thinking


I've come to believe that critical thinking may be one of the earliest things we should be teaching and it should be continually exercised and used by people throughout their life for we cannot master it, we can only improve with practice. Why do I believe this?

It is the key to navigating through discussions with people when our views are not in alignment. It does not work as effectively if only one participant is using it. It also teaches us to recognize common logical fallacies. This makes us less susceptible to them, and less susceptible to propaganda and indoctrination as such things tend to be based heavily upon logical fallacies.


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If all participants know these things then a person saying "Appeal to Authority" will not necessarily be met with anger, but "ah, yes, you are right, let me rethink that, or rephrase that". We ALL uses logical fallacies, some of us use them very often and simply do not know about it. When a person points them out it should not be viewed as an attack, but rather as an opportunity. A flaw was pointed out. We can either address that flaw, or perhaps we need to rethink our stance on that particular issue.

Often people talk about various utopian, or ideological concepts they believe will save the world and make it a better place. I don't really care which one you pick. They all tend to fall apart when confronted with human nature. Why? We don't all think the same. Simply because you think an idea sounds great, and you are willing to change your life and how you approach it does not mean that everyone else shares your mind. In fact, a great deal of them probably will not. These things are usually making the same mistake as modern education. Trying to force other humans into the mold that you think will work.

For this reason I believe the key to the success of any great ideological concept is a population well versed in critical thinking. Then they will have the tools to navigate disagreement, respect those they disagree with and agree with alike.

Now for those who would control the population and expect obedience the concept of a population well versed in critical thinking is probably terrifying. For then they'd have to convince us to go along with their plans based upon FACTS and REASON. Without such a population emotion, and logical fallacies work great to manipulate the masses.

So the current ruling class spread around the world likely would be very much against the population being versed in critical thinking.

Conclusion


These are but my initial ideas and some of them are things I've spent years thinking about off and on, and others were things I only truly considered when I was asked the question that inspired this. Nothing I write here should be cast in stone. These are my ideas, and they are very likely flawed somewhere. I consider them simply a possible seed that might be able to grow into something. It may be a seed that the mind of someone else can put to use. Otherwise, it may simply be an intellectual curiosity.


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I do want to part with a fifth thing. Lose the fascination with EASY. We need to stop rushing for the thing that seems like the easy solution. Often walking the difficult path offers many rewards and bits of learning that you never would encounter otherwise. If a thing sounds difficult, that is not reason to avoid it. It could be a reason to pursue it.

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Great article. That's a lot of food to digest. We homeschool our kids with a very basic, the 3r's, curriculum. The goal is to have them self taught, and then to give them time to pursue their own interests. A few years back we sent two of our kids to public school to see how it would go, and to give me a needed break. My younger son did fine in kindergarten, but my older daughter was held back a grade because of her age, even though she tested in 9th and 12th grades in math and English. She was not challenged at all, and when we asked if the teacher could give her extra work to fill her time, we were told that was against policy. I got my break for the year, which was much needed, but at my daughter's expense. We went back to homeschooling and have not wavered since. During that year at PS, she had a good friend who was behind in some subjects. My daughter told him about her favorite book in the library, and went to help him check it out. The librarian would not let the boy check it out because it was above his comprehension level. I was speechless. My daughter checked it out the next library trip, and gave it to him.
For what it's worth, my daughter scored 30 on the ACT last year, and just completed her first year in college on the Dean's list. She absolutely loves every single class and subject she takes.
I believe I read your previous post (unless I'm confusing it with another), and there was one commenter that kept bashing homeschooling. While he is allowed his own opinion, there are many homeschool families that disprove his beliefs. :)

I agree with what you said here. There wasn't anyone bashing home schooling on my previous post. That would have given me someone to mentally joust with. :)

My last post a couple of days ago the one I linked at the top of this article was about the Prussian Education System, how it has invaded our systems, and some major problems with it.

If you have a child in modern U.S. education that is excited and excelling the modern system can quickly squash that. My youngest child was doing 9 digit addition and subtraction in his head by the time he was in kindergarten.

It also turns out his approach to division was producing the correct results, but was done in a completely different way than taught. They of course wanted him to stop and do their method so he would SHOW HIS WORK, because they didn't understand his method. I didn't pull him out soon enough.

Then when he reached the point where they taught him estimation that brilliant math mind was homogenized and that odd genius he would apply no longer worked that way anymore.

He wasn't the only child of mine that I saw the excitement killed in. No Child Left Behind was a very bad bill. It could be read another way "All children taught at the same speed".

It doesn't work. These days in the U.S. homeschooling is likely the best way to go. I also don't consider college these days any better. I've had to be tech support for many colleges and what I've seen over the years has been appalling so I'm glad your daughter made it through that unscathed.

@clickinchicken Ahhh, I had a similar experience to your daughter's friend in 3rd grade when I tried to check out the book Holes from the school library and they wouldn't let me because it was "recommended for grades 5 and up." This was baffling and infuriating because I had read all the available Harry Potter books (1-4) before 2nd grade even began, and it was well within my comprehension. It's sad and ironic how schools often limit students when they should be pushing them.

Education cannot be instilled from without. It has to be sought from within.

Education is a tool. The most important part of a tool is the person holding it. Just forcing someone to hold a hoe will not make them swing it.

Learning and capability are not chronological. Forcing students to march through school in lock step is a mental remnant of the industrial age we are leaving behind. Our fascination with standardization and compartmentalization, the keys to industrial efficiency, do not translate at all to biological systems like society, the ecology, our economy, or education.

Not all people are good learners. Much of society would do much better with rudimentary education and a lot of hands on practical experience. You learn a lot more about life and how reality works that way than being forced to regurgitate a list of historical events. We are not all going to be rocket scientists no matter how many hours of school you force us to sit through.

We cannot all be above average.

School in our current society is really only glorified child care, which allows a greater portion of our society to engage in work outside the home.

This is not good for society.

I am sure you've heard about Ken Robinson (I also mentioned his work here, you would like to take a look). Similar views.

I can't disagree, even though it is hard to use these aspirations as something actionable. There is a lot we need to figure out about the meanings behind critical thinking, love for learning, and even honesty before these changes can begin.

education is changing quickly because knowledge can become more commoditized. Learning and finding new information is becoming easier in a digital world

I think education is also a good investment in the future. 🙃

For my kids, I plan on using the Ron Paul Homeschool Curriculum. Mine are 2 and 4.
For Adults, we should all (learn in your car) with the Tom Woods' Liberty Classroom

When I finally clued in to Ron Paul you can be assured I learned a lot and my kids in turn were exposed to many of his ideas. Great man.

That user by the way is @clarityofsignal

Nice article. I think an essential point to make could be Get out of the way. As Sugata Mitra's hole-in-the-wall experiment in India has shown, if children have the rudimentary tools - in this case an old outdoor computer - and are challenged in an unorthodox way to teach themselves about something, they can learn much more than one would anticipate. He has also done some interesting work on collaborative learning. Watch his TedTalk, he is a very charming speaker.

I appreciate the emphasis you place on critical thinking, and to accompany it I would also suggest another point teach children how to learn systematically without supervision.

  • I personally am continually shocked at how many students I see that don't know how to use a dictionary properly, or have never even opened one thanks to smartphones.
  • Taking notes in class below the university level has practically vanished from our public schools, and often when told to kids just don't know how.
  • Further, real library skills are fading, researching in a library is essentially obsolete below the university level thanks to the deification of the internet. If the electrical grid fails in the future, entire generations of people won't know how to find a book in the library on how to fix it.

This is the reason there are so many courses at the universities that are about teaching students how to research and learn on their own in the first two years, because they don't learn it beforehand. Even these introductory courses are fading at the undergraduate level and being rescheduled for graduate students instead.

I am in what my colleagues call 'the trenches' of public education now, and I taught at the university level for many years, so I am under no illusions as to the successful nature of public schools today. Nor are many of my colleagues. It is surprising how many teachers view educating children to be successful in the world as a kind of battle against ignorance and apathy. Most of them however absolutely balk when I advocate home schooling . Upon showing them the research however, many changed their tune. That is a scary concept for teachers and teacher unions however, because it basically advocates getting rid of a ton of jobs. Even though in a complete home school world there would be room for professional teachers, there would by necessity be far fewer than there are today. And any attempt to reform the education system in many countries has to go through the unions sooner or later.

As to solutions, as it has been noted in the discussion here, inside of the present system any real reform is highly unlikely. The Waldorf schools and their kind have made some inroads in providing alternatives, but public education is modeled on the Prussian early-industrial nationalist model that instills obedience to the state and "manufactures" children into conformist laborers. And the government likes it that way, especially thanks to the oligarch industrialists who provide politicians with financial incentives to produce laborers. Never ever let it be forgotten that John D. Rockefeller funded and supported the push for compulsory public education in the USA with his advisor Frederick T. Gates who said:

"In our dream we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or of science. We are not to raise up among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply."

That said, I enjoy the idea of a return to the agora (Platonic Academy mixed with homeschooling and independent learning. It does not appear to be a coincidence to me that debate forms of education among learned men are more effective than lectures taken from dusty books, frontal instruction and memorization techniques. It would be a fantastic thing for me to see something along the lines of a football stadium repurposed to be full of professors circulating and debating and discussing with each other and students. That would enable people to follow ideas in a more interdisciplinary manner. Uff, I have to get up early and it is very late here.

Thanks for the thought-provoking post dwinblood!

Well said. If you missed the initial linked post about blindness... a couple of days ago I had the Prussian Education System in my crosshairs. :)

Also brilliant observation to mention agora. That is definitely worth revisiting. That process produced a lot of brilliant people. How many it truly produced we'll never know unless we develop a time machine since so much of their work was lost with the burning of the Library of Alexandria (catastrophe of ignorance).

I know there are good educators out there in Universities and in the K-12. A lot of them are confined by the increasing standardization, common core, and trying to homogenize our youth.

It still does me good to encounter educators who SEE it. They simply don't know how to stop it now, yet they do what they can.

The universities (unless you go to one that hasn't changed) are plagued by this same thing. Since the guaranteed student loan and the requirements to get funding that is guaranteed tons of "colleges" have sprung up. I've encountered people with three PhDs and was baffled how they had ONE when I spoke to them. I've encountered Bachelors and Masters degree computer science students that I was left wondering if they got their degree out of a Cracker Jacks box.

The education in the U.S. is deteriorating rapidly. Seems to have happened when we decided the Federal Government should be in charge of it. Most people don't even know there was no Department of Education prior to 1986.

You are bang on the money to my mind. Important too is the General Education Board and its role in the states. Less benevolent than it may seem. Also worth noting is that Frederick Gates mentioned in my post above is, I believe, a forefather of Bill Gates. The Gates Foundation got into the education game with common core and that has been an unmitigated disaster.

Your posts always just grab hold of me and won't let me go softly into that good night. I may pick up more in the comments where there's an interaction between you and the commenters that just expands on your original post.

You may add twice as much in your replies than you had in your original post.

I had to look and see if the Teachers Unions grew along with the creation of the Dept of Ed and here's what the American Federation of Teachers web site says:

The 1980s saw a concentrated movement toward education reform and teacher professionalization, which was led by the AFT and its more than 600,000 members. The AFT worked to tear down the artificial barriers between contract bargaining matters and other professional issues, and reframed the education reform discussion to include teachers and paraprofessionals as decision-making partners.

English translation , "We latched on to that government teat and haven't stopped sucking yet."

Neither literally nor figuratively, they suck big time.

In my opinion, that's also a huge barrier to education reform, the cash cow that is the teachers union.

Add to that the idea that it's not about education, it's always been about indoctrination for the masses and it all makes sense. It's wrong but there's a logic to it.

There is a documentary out there I think called "Waiting for Superman" or something like that and it was about education and problems with it. The things that are happening in some states due to unions is ridiculous.

I had totally forgotten about that.

All I kept asking myself as a parent was "Was it this bad when I was in school? I don't remember it being this bad". I graduated from High School in 1989. The Department of Education didn't exist until 1986.

So when people like Ron Paul are calling for getting rid of the department of education. People scream like he is crazy. How many of them know that it didn't exist prior to 1986 and we did just fine, perhaps even better than now?

When he calls for the end of the IRS and income tax, how many of the people don't know that prior to 1913 such a thing didn't exist?

They act like it is crazy before they even look into the history.

How many people think the pledge of allegiance always had "one nation under God" without looking into it and finding out that it was added in 1950s (54 I think, I didn't go google it)? It was added with the idea that it was fighting communism, or at least that was the excuse.

How many people see someone hold their hand out like a Hitler style Zeig Heil type salute and call that persons Nazi's without realizing that we used to hold our hand very similar in the U.S. when stating the pledge to the flag. We only changed it AFTER the Nazi's in an attempt to avoid the stereotypes.

There are a lot of things people think are crazy and nuts, yet they just are having kneejerk reactions without stopping to think, research, etc.

They have drunk from the everlasting spring of kool-ade (and I understand the Jim Jones connotation) and gone back for refills.

I'll hold out hope.

One of the potential problems is the inertia of the system. Things are changing little by little, but it is very hard to make a big step forward in one shot. We can only witness those years the appearance of new technologies in teaching, although these things are available for many many times.

To me, the most important point is that one is a learner forever. As long as we stop learning, this is the beginning of the end ^^

There is some potential in the homeschool movement IF the parents are knowledgeable, open minded, and can truly point their children in the correct location.

The education system here in the U.S. has been getting worse and worse. I think it like so many things may need to collapse before people will consider replacing it with something else.

I have no definite opinion concerning homeschooling. It is good to give a complement to what is taught at 'normal' schools, but it may be complicated to replace it entirely as parents may miss some expertise about varied topics. Of course, they can learn, but this deserves time and commitment (that many do not have) :)



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Post is just amazing and in details. Thanks for writing..

Education should change accordingly with the evolution of humans and technology!

As long as it isn't rigid and forced to one size fits all I believe it already is doing that.

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Great post keep it up

I think most teachers and administrators know that not all students learn by the same method or at the same pace. I don't think the problem lies on the human side of this, as much as an antiquated system that, as you say, is incapable of being flexible. Compulsory education must end so that freedom and technology can correct the system. I wrote a post on this, feel free to check it out.

I've known some good teachers as a student and later as an adult encountering new students. I've seen firsthand the light go out of that teachers eyes as they are confined almost in a strait jacket to limit them from actually teaching. It becomes more about the standardized tests and shoving children into molds. It doesn't work and it seems to be getting worse.

Some excellent points in your posts, but I don't think the changes you propose can be achieved in the school system that we have today. I don't know any country that has a system allowing for critical thinking, as most focus on memorizing tons of useless information.
Honesty is also tricky. Teaching the kids that their country is not the greatest in the world...I don't think so... I live in Romania and we've recently had the case of teacher who announced that she doesn't really care about teaching Romanian literature too much and wants to focus on other foreign writers. This caused quite an uproar, because you cannot say your national writers are not the best in the world... although they're really not that great and nobody's ever heard about them.
The teaching environment should be completely overhauled and have it centered on the child's interests, not on curriculum and tests.

I don't think the changes you propose can be achieved in the school system that we have today.

Neither do I. Yet I am not the one enamored and fixated on this current system. That is our governments and a lot of the population. It is far easier to stick with what they know than to take the difficult path and get rid of it and replace it. Sadly people will usually take the easy path even if it isn't working.

My previous post was basically about that. Yet I was asked How I would do it... so I wrote this post in response to that question.

I often wonder about, rather than having an entrance exam based on skill, have on based on personality, either in a myers-briggs kind of way (pseudoscience I know, but it has its uses in this context), or simply a statement of introspection.

What i've found when teaching is that, for example, in-context comedy increases learning, but not for everyone. Some people hate or feel uncomfortable about it. Others who hate being indoors may not work well with bookworms.

In this sense, setting class by age or ability would be obsolete because if the class is all like-minded they would boost the weaker students, who would be more encouraged and eager to work hard to catch up.

In theory, anyway. It would need years of study to see if it's even sensible

My thoughts are that standardized tests will still miss a lot of people. Some people just don't approach tests in the correct way.

If there were a test I believe having a building that had all kinds of different activities in it from musical instruments, labs, computers, rooms with books on different topics, and other activities.

Drop the children off there and tell them to have fun. Observe. Look for that spark of excitement. Make note of this.

Then try exposing them to more of that which seemed to excite them. Repeat this process several times. Sometimes perhaps with a group of kids, and other times solo in case they are self conscious and to avoid bias due to trying to fit in.

My thought was to present a child with as many opportunities as possible so we can hopefully catch that SPARK. That thing that they are passionate about, or several things.

Even with this method we'd likely still miss some students. So it is possible this combined with the other methods might even get a better cross section.

Yet, instilling the child with a love of learning is key. Forcing them into a mold doesn't seem to usually do this.

I love to learn but honestly I was a bad student. So I can relate to this. I did find several passions and I found them ALL outside of school. I found them early enough that this is partially why I was a bad student. I did just enough to get by in class and in the meantime I was filling up notebooks and teaching myself things they didn't teach in school.

I was a programmer before it became an in thing. I also sucked at English until my final year of high school though I read, and wrote a lot. It took a creative writing class with a good teacher that tossed out the rules for me to finally GET English in a way that worked for me. I never had any problems with any English, Creative Writing, etc after that. I simply didn't fit into the mold they spent 11 years prior to that trying to shove me in. I literally had some Fs and Ds in English. 12th grade I did something different and never got anything less than an A in any English related class including college after that. What's worse is I hardly had to try to get that A. So it turns out I did have a passion there too, but I despised the approach they'd been trying to force on my for 11 years. Who knew? I didn't.

My passions at that age were computer programming, music, and writing. I read a ton as well on all kinds of subjects and they rarely had anything to do with any actual class work.

I have some bright kids too. I actually witnessed the current system sucking the love of learning out of them and trying to conform them into a standardized form. It actually damaged a natural ability my youngest son had. My kids loved learning... for awhile... no child left behind amounted to all kids taught the same speed and they eventually grew bored.

I eventually did something about this, but I waited a bit too long. I bought into the Appeal to Tradition bullshit even though what we have as education now is nothing like it was for me as a child. It is worse.

I suppose what you propose would be what the entirety of kindergarten should be about. Learning through various methodologies and then suggesting the best school for each individual based on what makes them spark.

I was thinking in a more middle-high school approach since thats what I taught. By that point it would probably be too late.

I also failed in school - in fact by the end I just stopped turning up and went to the park every day instead. Failed miserably. But I went to a music college which got me into University studying music, and here I excelled and my passion for life was born. At this point, where education became a choice, I started finding passion for science, literature, gardening, painting, you name it.

So you're definitely on the right track, but realistically, it ain't happening any time soon. Here in China, students are so focussed on getting A's that the actual journey to that grade is irrelevant.

Students trying to go to America for example who do the SAT exam will more than likely get a call saying 'I'm sorry, but too many students cheated so the exams are all void' (Actually happened in the school I taught in).

Bribery and plagiarism is rife here, because they've somehow learnt that the actual process of learning is obsolete, and we can all be experts if we have enough money. Sigh.

I suppose what you propose would be what the entirety of kindergarten should be about. Learning through various methodologies and then suggesting the best school for each individual based on what makes them spark.

No I'd propose doing it at different ages to see if interests change, and expose people to opportunity at different age levels. The key is giving people opportunity to hopefully be exposed to the thing they are interested in. Many things would not be something a kindergarten student would likely know yet that they have an interest in.

Failed miserably. But I went to a music college which got me into University studying music, and here I excelled and my passion for life was born

I only ever took ONE class my senior year that was music related K-12. I told you one of my passions was music. I played guitar, and I composed electronic music very early in that process. All which was self taught.

When I went to college the college I went to lied about having a Computer Science major when I got there so I was initially a dual Physics/Music major and the music was primarily so I could take the music theory and other classes I was interested in without being told they were not for me. Even in college I was eclectic and very much doing my own thing. I did play Cello (very little) in college.

I learned a lot of interesting things in college, but as with High School the bulk of what I learned was learned on my own outside of classes. I took heavy advantage of the library, computer labs, etc.

I played in the college jazz band for a bit so I'd be exposed to that.

Ultimately I worked on helping that college create the Computer Science major for there. Some of the students teaching Computer Labs were taught more by me than they were their classes. I spent a huge amount of time using the mainframe, and exploring the early internet pre-WWW.

So you're definitely on the right track, but realistically, it ain't happening any time soon.

Yeah I know. :) I don't usually bother to write about east projects. :P

Bribery and plagiarism is rife here, because they've somehow learnt that the actual process of learning is obsolete, and we can all be experts if we have enough money. Sigh.

That is happening in the U.S. too, but they try to pretend it is not. That is where my reference to sometimes thinking people got their degree out of a cracker jacks box came from.

I believe a large amount of the population actually never finds what they are passionate about. They just plod along and follow what they've found works within the system.

To me the solution is simple (it always is) HOMESCHOOL! Adam Smith wrote in The Theory of Moral Sentiments that it is the duty of parents to teach their children to avoid having them indoctrinated and inculcated with values alien to the values of the parents.

I homeschooled all 4 of mine while my wife worked. It was an immense financial strain... having an MA made me the logical breadwinner, but the future of our children was more important than upward mobility. It was a sacrifice I'm thrilled to have made given the success of my children. If people complain about how the country is doing perhaps they should have thought about it before sending their children into the moral wasteland and intellectual cesspool of public education.

By the way, I've been meaning to ask... Have you heard anything about Ben Swann?

I haven't heard anything new from Ben Swann or about him in awhile. I wrote about him not long ago and found a good article and the guy that wrote that article ended up joining steemit. So we hopefully have more people that are keeping tabs and keeping an eye out for him joining us here. I really miss his work.

I'd be happy just to learn that he's still converting oxygen to carbon dioxide!

Last I heard awhile back is that he is... I also heard it from someone in Atlanta.

As long as he is alive and well... I'm sure we'll hear from him again. You can't keep a good man down!

Do you believe the more words you use, the better you communicate?