Activity time: 21:00-24:00, February 20, 2018.
Activities:
The year 2018 is known as the first year of the blockchain application, but ETH and its many solutions to the origin face.
The challenge is, is the definition accurate? Where is the opportunity to apply? Where is the difficulty? We have a lot of
The question is thinking, hoping to be answered.
We invited Rong Chen, the founder of Elastos, the pioneer of the blockchain application industry, for this event.
They told the story.
Elastos, through the construction of the block chain driven intelligent world wide web, realized large decentralization application operations and Numbers.
The security and credible transactions of content create an open and Shared Elastos intelligent economic ecology.
The host Hua Yuan, the water and wood tsinghua foundation, the angolan angel partner.
Interviewer: Rong Chen, founder of cloud ELASTOS.
Yuan ye: first of all, this paper introduces the originator of the application alliance for the blockchain of the fire.
The introduction of the initiator of the fire block chain application alliance.
Now I have the sponsor's representative: the founding partner of the angel foundation, China youth angel association, tsinghua university.
Alumni association Internet and new media association honorary President, li zhu.
Li zhu ~ inno angel: hello everyone!
The underlying technology of the block chain is still improving and evolving. How to promote block chain and should?
A combination? We want to build a community of communication and cooperation with the spirit of block chain.
There are entrepreneurs in the group, as well as investors, chain coinage, blue sky meeting, tsinghua department, innuo... You don't know
Don't get together, take risks, practice, use, and hope for links and transfers of value.
This is the origin of the "fireman" blockchain application alliance.
Fire, not just to eliminate anxiety, but to combine theory and practice, from sitting down to arguing,
Promote the new production relations upgrade, for the good fortune.
We will regularly invite the practitioners, investors and investors of the common chain and blockchain technology platform to share their knowledge in the group.
Promote cooperation in the discussion.
The fire, with our respective flame, together into a torch, together light, forward road!
Yuan ye: the list of sponsors just issued was randomly generated by the system. Because the coin circle is too fast, so the name.
The list is still being updated.
I will ask today's keynote speaker to answer your questions, because I have a lot of questions in the newspaper.
First, pick the priorities.
Below, we introduce today's keynote speaker Rong Chen Elastos project.
Rong Chen graduated from the computer department of tsinghua university in 1982 and went to the United States in 1984 to study in the department of operation.
System and object-oriented programming, master's degree in 1987. He attended Microsoft research in 1992.
System group, developed for component operating system, participated in planning and development of service oriented (SaaS) operation in 1998.
System (.net). In 2000, he returned to set up cotai century company to develop Elastos network operation designed independently.
Completed the kernel and graphics system in 2003, completed a complete smartphone and mass production in 2007,
In 2009, China unicom selected Elastos middleware as the framework of the vphone operating system. In 2013, Fuji
The company invests Elastos open source plan, builds the distributed, trans-internet industrial Internet of things, intelligent home network operation.
As a system. In May 2017, Chen rong participated in the planning of Elastos fund as a co-founder.
It will support Elastos, the block chain driven Internet project, trying to create a new digital smart economy.
To turn Numbers into wealth.
(entering the q&a)
- Elastos press conference.
Yuan ye: I first asked the friend of the previous question to ask you a few questions. I have seen the release of Elastos.
Can you tell me about the day of the launch? What areas are you looking for?
Chen rongelastos: Yang xiangyang, liu xiaosong, Lin dongliang, Huobi Tyler, and many others.
. - Differences between Elastos application layout, block chain program and application.
Yuan ye: can you tell us about the application of Elastos in line? We choose our partner.
What's the Angle? Which applications are preferred.
Chen rong ELASTOS Zapya, Helix, panda green energy, SEED.
First, fast teeth is a cross-os "Airdrop" platform with 400 million users. Our preferred P2P mobile application.
The company, Zapya, Helix. On the one hand, they provide code for AirDrop and Coco2D and Coco3D.The Elastos community, on the other hand, is a heavyweight application to the center. There are millions of real shifts in the application itself.
Mobile users, relative to the three-legged cat, are more important.
Helix is a top gaming platform, and panda green energy and SEED are both green energy and SEED traceability.
Type block chain application.
Yuan ye: can you understand that a large number of C end users are a preferred cooperation label.
Rong Chen ELASTOS :(need) to decentralize the c terminal, not the application running on the block chain, I think.
The program running on the block chain is not an application.
Yuan ye: "the program that runs in the blockchain is not an application." this theory may be familiar to most people.
Challenge, can you explain again?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: I think the program that runs directly on the block chain is not DAPP, but the programmable path of the system.
Sequence. It's like a hard drive, a sound card, a graphics card, but it's invisible. The application is visible to the user.
The process of touching.
In fact, there are dozens of cpus on a computer, only the main CPU is responsible for running the program, but the main CPU is not.
It's the strongest CPU, like the GPU is better than the CPU, but he's not running the app.
Block chain efficiency is very low, in fact, it is not suitable for running applications. So, I think, "using Dapp for ecology,
The idea of using the block chain Dapp for ecology is a typical big fudge.
Blockchain can run programs, but it's important, like hard disk programming. Operating system
There are too many running programs, all kinds of internal drivers. But people in the blockchain look like these.
Common sense) forgot.
- Elastos token allocation mechanism.
Yuan ye: how does the founding team assign tokens? Is there some classic case?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: there are 33 million tokens in ELASTOS, half of which are for our distribution. ELASTOS
The token assignment is the responsibility of teacher Feng Han. I think it's a bit of a coincidence, but after half a year, actually.
It's all very sensible.
8 million as token sales, 3.5 million to the foundation, and 5 million are angel investors, probably.
That's half of the $16.5 million. The other half is for Airdrop and support.
Ecological applications.
Other typical cases, I don't know, ask Mr. Han. - Smart contract running DAPP is to paint the lily.
Yuan ye: what scene or industry is difficult to block chain.
Chen rongelastos: what scene is difficult to block chain in fact I don't know. I think we do the most.
The thing is that the Internet is based on blockchain. In fact, we've been doing this for decades.
Past network operating systems, such as clouds, are controlled by an organization. If you have a blockchain,
The Internet is not controlled by a single company (the decentralization of the Internet). How about this
I can't stress enough.
Yuan ye: Chen can also by the way also come to the cloud to do things.
Rong Chen ELASTOS: in fact, our introduction in Singapore on February 1st is quite clear. You can have a look.
We've posted it before.
Our basic idea is to integrate the concept of the network computer with the concept of the world computer brought out by the ether.
Together.
Then, I'm not particularly convinced that smart contracts should run on the public chain, and I think smart contracts should run.
With the state. So I think the DAPP on the smart contract is the icing on the cake, because the efficiency doesn't meet the requirements.
Sorry, a bunch of them. - The operating system should show face and block chain to achieve consensus instead of efficiency.
Yuan ye: the current competition of main chains, such as eos and eos, what do you think about the main chain? Now,
Eos and eos, which one do you prefer and what is the future? Or they die.
Soon yi
RongChen ELASTOS: in fact, there is an unwritten principle in the operating system -- that is, who has the future,
Who does not show face who has no future. That is, who provides the SDK, and then the application can see, then who has the value.
Who (the SDK) is hiding behind the scenes, such as providing some services as a driver, as an internal function of the operating system.
Modules, generally, have no premium.
I don't think it's going to show up in the ether and EOS, because they can't provide the SDK.
Yuan ye: what's the reason why you can't provide the SDK? Is it because they had problems with the initial design?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: because of the running program, you have to run any program. Run any program, not the Turing equivalent,
Turing complete is so simple. Any program, actually must run the main application CPU instruction set program. they
(ether and EOS) are not designed for running applications.
Solidity (the language is complete) ensures that deterministic, very focused, repeatable.
It is not possible to randomly generate random Numbers. You can't use the CPU instruction set, EOS emphasizes.
The concurrency and multichannel programs run simultaneously, but it does not provide the CPU instruction set or the running SDK.
Therefore, the instruction set of the main CPU is provided, whether the CPU is MIPS, ARM or X86.
Yuan ye: for different CPU instruction sets, it requires a cross-instruction set. Can you say that, this one.
The problem is given to someone else to do it, doing OS only for middle and upper layers.
Rong Chen ELASTOS: now the technology has crossed this line of thought, such as the universal app of win10.
Cross instruction set, of course, this is also a cheat, the details are too technical, it's not there.
The key technology is that today's win10 is no longer JNI, and can be used to expand CPU instruction.
You don't have to manually write the appropriate code. That's what ELASTOS did, too.
There's been very little attention to this, which fundamentally distinguishes the last generation of operating systems and the most.
A new generation of operating systems. In the past, Java wanted to be "programmed to run everywhere". And for 20 years,
Later, people laughed and called it "a program, debug everywhere". The key is that Java USES JNI, win10.
A call like JNI was eliminated in 2015. ELASTOS did it about 10 years ago.
Yuan ye: so what are the operating systems of Elastos based on?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: C++, most importantly if the JAVA program won't be able to run 100% of applications, such as JAVA.
You can write the game engine, so when you write those applications, you're going to go from JAVA to C,
Two Spaces need to be manually coordinated. The latest technology, the call of these two systems is automatic translation, by.
The operating system is complete.
The importance of this for DAPP is that, after JAVA comes to C, C is generally shipped on LINUX.
Ok, so you can write a virus at this time, you can also write privacy theft software, and you can launch a cyber attack. so
A lot of old problems have come back.
Yuan ye: when will the Elastos SDK come out? Charges not?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: ELASTOS is 100% open source, free of charge. The SDK will probably be available in June and July of this year.
Roll out version 0.1.
Now that the Elastos test code has been opened to the public, the code for the p2p center network will be four.
The month is open. Later, the ID side chain of some smart homes will be opened, probably in May. Then SDK0.1 version
It will be in June. So there's probably some demo level DAPP coming out this summer.
Yuan ye: another Angle problem, bitcoin, the high concurrency and delay problem of the ether, Elastos OS.
How to solve?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: it's actually two questions. Let's talk about a smart web when we talk about the Internet. a
Not to say the Internet's concurrency is not to say that the Internet transaction per second is.
How much, actually this problem is false problem, because the Internet is can by add CPU, then common people's ask.
The problem is that there is not much to do with each other, so you can solve it by adding hardware.
So the problem with the blockchain is that the other problem is that you have constraints on each other, and you have to put it together. So it actually closes.
Bookkeeping is the accomplishment of consensus, not efficiency. High efficiency and consensus are two contradictory problems that cannot be solved.
On a machine or on a platform.
So, some people take the block chain as the dapp, which is a contradiction in itself, so I said that it is the lily.
Elastos simply USES the blockchain to solve the problem of ID problems, and then addresses the scarcity of digital assets.
The topic. So these two problems, actually now the block chain computer is fast enough.
Yuan ye: how is Elastos balanced between consensus and efficiency? Elastos is compared to other public chains,
What are the advantages and disadvantages?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: ELASTOS didn't make a choice. There are 7 billion people in the world, all of us plus one second.
The clock is also about 1,000 to 1,500 new students. If our block chain computer, we can remember 1000 in a second.
The ID of 1500 people, that's fast enough.
Elastos USES a common chain to mine the bitcoins, while Elastos is actually doing one.
Smart web, which is making a credible Internet. Elastos is our own in addition to the smart web.
The distribution of other ids that can be done by other common chains is not inconsistent with the chain hair ID. Like a
A communication network can have a mobile ID or an ATT ID that can roam and intersect on the Internet.
Admittedly, there is no contradiction.
Elastos, mainly not a block chain project, but an Internet project using the block chain technology. - There should be no application on the block chain.
Yuan ye: with the current technology, if the ideal application of blockchain is realized, the key technology needs to be obtained.
Breakthrough? Can you make three key breakthrough points in terms of importance?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: you can use different block chains at the same time. I don't think there should be an answer on the block chain.
I'm talking about the common chain. So there is no breakthrough, no breakthrough. - Elastos is the manufacturing block chain factory. Different side chains have different understandings.
Yuan ye: in other areas, is the erc-20 currently the only token of token?
'Rong Chen ELASTOS: because there are thousands of nodes that form consensus, efficiency, how can it be high? Thousands of people
Together, no one can remember fast. So how many things a person can do, it's not.
Common sense question
ELASTOS is hoping to create a side chain with one key. If ETH is a mint, then.
ELASTOS is a manufacturing block chain factory that can quickly make an API call to create a side in the user state.
Chain. Side chains, of course, can also take their own token.
Fang gang: maybe OuKuai Lian computer will be enough for excel. The rest is still centered.
Where the app is good at, it turns out that Elastos hybrid can't find killer app and application scenarios.
Rong Chen ELASTOS: the so-called hybrid of ELASTOS doesn't mean to put two on one level.
It's an Internet project.
As for whether there is a scene in ELASTOS, I think if Zapya runs, I don't have to explain.
Just as there is a company going to the center today Telegram Telegram, you can choose the letter or not.
Letter, but I think one thing is certain, is to go to the center Telegram, must not be a smart.
Contract. It's not that it's not necessarily a project that runs on the block chain.
Yuan ye: in Elastos, can you have a simple standard like ERC20? Use side chains.
How much does it cost?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: the application scenarios of ERC20 and side chains are different, and each side chain can have a different total.
Knowledge, ERC20 does not have this flexibility. Different side chains have different consensus, which is the essence of blockchain.
Actually, ELA and ETH are not a thing. The cost of comparison is actually apples and oranges.
Ratio.
An Internet can have a credible ID, can prevent network attacks, can avoid the harm of the virus, can be more difficult.
Stealing user privacy is far more important than smart contracts. And the Internet is not one.
It's controlled by an agency. - Virtual currency, block chain technology and application.
Yuan ye: the domestic policy side clearly proposes to combat virtual currency transactions and encourage innovation of blockchain technology. Excuse me, can you tell me what you to
What do you think? Can virtual currency and block chain technology be split in two?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: the two worlds are very different, because the consensus is different. The common chain needs to have a reward mechanism.
The point is indisputable. At least the common currency and block chain technology can not be split in two.
Yuan ye: a friend asked earlier: although the blockchain has some advantages in solving the problem of trust, it also brings it.
There are a lot of problems in the implementation process, such as the time delay and processing that the consensus mechanism inevitably brings.
Storage hardware cost increases. So how do you see if the blockchain can really improve efficiency?
Can the field improve efficiency?
Can you answer: block chain can not improve efficiency, block chain is to solve the consensus problem.
Rong Chen ELASTOS: I agree. Each of us has a fingerprint on our smartphone.
Identify such a module. In fact, fingerprint identification module, oneself is a computer, also is Turing complete.
For the. But his calculations are so inefficient that one thing he does is identify fingerprints. So I think
The blockchain is the Internet's fingerprint reader. Of course, efficiency, like fingerprint recognition.
It's certainly good to have a higher rate, but that's really not the point.
So, I've always been interested in improving the block chain efficiency, which is a crooked tree, and I'm not going to do it.
Look at the bigger picture. I think you're already "seeing the trees, not the forest."
Applications need video, applications need voice, applications need files, and applications need text messages. If we want to.
Run DAPP, so these few applications are essential, so today's block chain, actually these few.
The sample application is not complete. - Fire money for Elastos.
Yuan ye: can you only buy the coin from the fire coin and the price of Elastos?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: you can only buy ELASTOS from the coin on the coin. The value of the coin will not be evaluated. - BTC's problem.
Yuan ye: there is a view that: "because core organizations are trying to achieve something similar to traditional banking.
The decentralized control of the bitcoins (BTC) is deliberately made worse, and then through the lightning network.
Now centralized control, this is against the original intention of bitcoin design, and BCH (bitcoin cash) is true.
Bitcoin in the positive sense." What does the teacher think? Which of BTC and BCH is more in line with the development trend?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: I'm not really an expert in blockchain. I think this is a problem,
Actually, Jihan Wu is more suitable. - Elastos development is just an implementation issue.
Yuan ye: the system development is periodic and full of uncertainties, and the online Elastos OS needs to be solved.
Some core difficulties. If you can't launch the plan according to the plan, is there any alternative?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: the ELASTOS project, which is really huge, is just on GitHub today.
The tip of an iceberg. In fact, we are gradually sorting out some of the original code, and then gradually opening up, because.
To do the smart world wide web, the original code is for smart hardware devices.
There is no plan B for such a big project.
On the other hand, I am also very confident that the cloud is definitely the largest use of blockchain in the world.
See, for example, an Internet use of blockchain technology. At present, there is no such thing in the world.
Product.
This project has been going on for 18 years, so this time I think there is no key to the technology.
The difficulty is a problem of execution.
The muyan x1 matchmaker + lily net: @rong Chen's elder brother is the one who has been running all day and night.
One of the few techies on the planet is one of the few technologies that "take the test" day and night. - Joint mining of Elastos.
Yuan ye: how does Elastos realize the joint mining with bitcoin?
The intention of the mine?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: although we are an Internet project, we are not going to the block chain project, but ELASTOS is linked.
Mining and side-chain technology, including putting smart contracts in user mode, are actually very primitive innovations.
So these jobs actually need time and resources to precipitate. We've been doing it for four or five months.
It's not enough. We expect to launch this code for joint mining by the end of this year. There is no energy left.
To talk more about the pool, we're just doing some research and development with bits.
13, the bank makes block chain is an attempt, really want to use still early.
Yuan ye: does Elastos cooperate with Banks? Is there any way to explore or try,
Thank you very much
Rong Chen ELASTOS: theoretically, of course, the possibility of bank cooperation. But we take the Internet.
To compare. The Internet's users are first and foremost, and the Banks will be very far behind.
A bank is a central institution, and a blockchain is just an attempt to really use blockchain.
Real's still early.
It is not enough to ignore the Banks for the time being. It can make the Internet ID and make the Internet free of viruses.
Big deal.
Yuan ye: if it's not a traditional institution like a bank, what about new finance? For example, Internet finance, financial information service,
Personal credit.
Rong Chen ELASTOS: really? Not yet. - Elastos prevents DDoS attack.
Yuan ye: how to solve the DDoS problem of authentication service in Elastos system if the blockchain efficiency is not ideal?
Rong Chen ELASTOS: on 'ELASTOS' P2P network. All of the packets have ELASTOS operating systems.
For distribution. Application services and IOT devices are not allowed to send IP packets directly, so from the application layer.
It is very difficult to initiate a ddos attack.
For traditional ddos attacks from the side, we'll hire the best anti-virus software partners,
To help us resist ddos that attack from the side of the traditional Internet.
This kind of attack is actually very difficult to decipher, from the end-to-end encrypted ELASTOS information. At best
In terms of efficiency, let Elastos temporarily produce efficiency problems. We are based on the p2p address service, from.
IP is partially hidden. - Lightning speed of Elastos development team and community collaboration.
Yuan ye: one last question: according to the introduction of Elastos, it is to build a huge ecosystem.
All kinds of business, so what are the core team members and how to divide them? thank you
Rong Chen ELASTOS: there are more than 40 people in the team. The development of the public chain is mainly in Beijing.
The development of P2P and ELASTOS is mainly in Shanghai.
A lot of our projects are outsourced. There are at least 40 other people involved in outsourcing. In the end,
The operation of such a team has gone beyond the traditional operation of the traditional company, and no longer exists in party a's party b.
The relationship, but a lot of partners volunteer to participate in the dedication, to act as party a, such as fast teeth, for example.
Helix.
They are applications. They also contribute their code, such as Airdrop code, peer to peer.
Peer-to-peer code, providing game engines, is what they do as our partners.
The code.
So the efficiency of this (block chain collaboration). Far beyond a company or a person's ability,
Then my ability is far from enough.
As you can see, we went online in April. Then, in five or six months, our P2P code goes.
Xinghua code, already out of the net, just not open to the outside world; And then we have one more month of our ID side chain.
Complete; Another month our SDK is complete. Of course someone, like some of our investors, would not.
Understand how it feels to be a month. But like this, people who have a bit of engineering foundation will.
Solution, these speeds are just lightning speed.
Fang gang: code delivery is really lightning speed.
Rong Chen ELASTOS: it's really about community, like the web in 1994. There was about one.
Twenty schools began to be used, with a strong demonstration effect.
(after the formal q&a session, there was a lot of enthusiasm, and also the collision between the teachers and the teacher Rong Chen.)
Fireman block chain application alliance.
(Stealing-firer OuKuai Lian Application Union)
This is a concept and application based on block chain, and the combination of decentralized cooperation alliance.
A community of experiments and practices based on common knowledge of blockchain.
To steal fire, meaning first, bravery and endeavor.
We don't just think of the blockchain as a project, as a financing tool, or as a means of competition, but as a way of thinking about it.
The wide application of the application is a great undertaking, based on the progress of science and technology, and is reshaping a number of daily business and.
The rules of life.
We believe that in the near future, our current credit system, the way of trading and other important social foundation rules,
After the multiple applications of the block chain are implemented, important changes will occur.
We believe that technological progress and leadership, and the cognitive level of leadership, cannot become the use of blockchain technology to do evil.
Reason, fairness and justice are the basis for maintaining social order.
We believe that openness and transparency is the foundation, maintenance and maintenance of a healthy and healthy community and any transaction.
This order is the responsibility of every individual in our community.
We believe that every right comes with an obligation, every opportunity comes with a mission, every possession.
Come with a responsibility.
Any person or institution that violates the above rules will be corrected and punished accordingly in the community.
Every consensual behavior of the members of the alliance is the construction and maintenance of the alliance.
The members of the alliance have the responsibility to support each other, to rely on each other, to exchange the needed goods. On the way forward, we only have close ties.
Contact, open sharing, can walk better and healthier.
Based on the above consensus, we will build a multi-community of fire brigades and build coalitions. If you agree, welcome to join us.
When the first sunshine of the New Year comes, let us burn the faith and passion in our hearts, such as fire.
The sample gathers together, the common light, the way forward together!
Introduction of the initiator of the blockchain application alliance.
The list of names is in alphabetical order, and the list of sponsors continues to be updated... )
The former head of the Shanghai stock exchange, the chairman of the current path-seeking technology committee, is chairman of the technical committee of ChinaLedger.
[changbo] the founding partner of youlian gold, chairman of the TCP foundation, the NEBULA digital asset fund.
A person
[Chen rong] Elastos founder, Elastos fund chairman.
[Chen sheng] founder of century Internet, chairman of zhongguancun block chain alliance.
[Dundee] chairman of the cloud.
Deng yongqiang, founding partner of innuo innovation space, secretary of tsinghua alumni association Internet and new media association.
Long, tsinghua alumni association vice President of the committee.
[han feng] co-founder of Elastos, director of Elastos foundation.
[li Lin] Huobi founder.
[li zhu] the founding partner of innuo angel foundation, the President of the Chinese youth angel association, tsinghua alumni association.
Honorary President of network and new media association.
[liu xiao-ying] chairman of the board of directors of China's long-term holding company, vice President of China youth angel association.
[lv xujun] founder /CEO of online video technology.
[wang lijie] the founding partner of PreAngel venture fund, managing partner of Shanghai curtain fund,Executive director of China youth angel association.
[wang tong] founding partner of north soft angel foundation, executive director of China youth angel association.
[Yang ning] founder of lobo capital, founder and honorary President of China youth angel association.
[yao jincheng] inno angel fund partner, founder of aite group.
The fund's founding partner /CEO.
[zhang min] joint investment management partner, China youth angel will be honorary President.
[zhang yiqin] north soft angel foundation, founding partner of dahe capital.
Official website address
https://elastos.org
Elastos telegram
（1）news channel
https://t.me/elastos_org
(2) English fan group
https://t.me/elastosfans
（3）Chinese group
https://t.me/elastoscn
（4）English group
https://t.me/elastosgrou
Twitter contact
https://twitter.com/clouds621518171
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