The 17-18 of September
Paco EOS Mediterranean makes an announcement abotu vote tracker:
Hi there guys!! We are in the middle of redesigning our vote tracker tool(almost done), in the meantime we have created a fun little bot, it will tell you what accounts are voting/unvoting any BP, and also for proxies iy will tell you what new accounts are suporting/unsuporting the proxy. To use just add @eosvotetracker_bot to telegram.
He also sends to the chat realtime EOS vote monitor bot, developed by EOS Mediterranean. "vote eosmedinodes" to support this bot. https://t.me/eosvotetracker_bot.
He gets a of of thanks for the link.
Katie | @eosasia | myeoskit.com then adds:
Interesting data @controllinghand pulled for me. This is a rough estimate of who our top 21 would be if one person, one vote was implemented https://t.me/eosproxies/4782, https://t.me/eosproxies/4783, https://t.me/eosproxies/4784.
Raman Bindlish - Investing with a difference
Replies to Katie: “Not really, if you implement 1 person 1 vote, you will see number of accounts multiply into millions with whales voting with new accounts. Account creation is too cheap right now and barrier of entry for manipulation will be too low with that. And remember that accounts are also going to be sold later on, so it is a win-win situation for people with more money if you give one person one vote”
Katie | @eosasia | myeoskit.com then adds:
“This assumes Dan has figured out one person, one vote as he says he has.”
She gets reply from Investing With a Difference
“Dan is promising identity. It will work in a bigger scheme of things. But if there are BP rewards, it does not help. There are billions of people in Asia. You can easily game the system even with identity based system. POS needs staking .... and size of stake should matter... I am not in favor of one person one vote for anything that leads to rewards. It can be used for different decision making. But if there is proportional reward for votes, it will not work.”
Nate D - Aloha EOS writes in reply to the metrics duscusiion:
“Greymass wrote a little about that recently https://steemit.com/eos/@greymass/performance-and-transaction-billing-on-eos-a-cooperative-effort-not-a-competitive-one. They mention how one account one vote is similar to performance metrics.”
Raman Bindlish - Investing with a difference: Raman Bindlish - Investing with a difference, [18.09.18 22:39]
“But I would put it as what it shows - BP ranking in terms of number of votes.
I have seen too many people getting excited about one person one vote and maybe that is what I did not want to direct discussion towards. Today, to game the system you need half a billion dollar.. You don't want to create a lower bar for that.”
Nate D - Aloha EOS adds to him:
“We watch it closely at Aloha as a sort of community acceptance metric, which is why we added it to our tool.”
Paco EOS Mediterranean then opens new discussion:
“I think we are using to much time thinking in how changing the vote paterns when the reality is that we must be missing something if in a DPOS whales are not behaving as they should using the simple logic the best for the chain is the best for the investors, I can only put it that maybe we haven’t done a good job at educating those whales on what is the best for all of us? It seems instant gratification is winning over long term goals,that in itself don’t have any logic, and I don’t think everyone has understood that.”
Raman Bindlish - Investing with a difference
[In reply to Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)]
This is why we should have reward for voting and ensuring exchanges do not vote... that is the only way to keep it clean. If you only use staking, Exchanges can use fractional reserves for trading and still stake tokens”
He gets question: “Yes, but how do we accomplish that without a fork?”, which he answers: “Why fork? EOS is upgradeable”. He gets answer: “Well, through referendum. I am saying I do not think that those that hold the most vote power currently would vote something restricting exchanges through at this point and time”.
Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp) suggests:
Maybe REX could help.
A lot of people agree with him.
DataJunky | GenerEOS then writes:
“Having liquid tokens means no voting.I don't think any exchanges should be allowed to vote at all. They misrepresent the token holders who are liquid and shouldn't be allowed to vote.”
He then writes in response to “When EOS was frozen, they still traded with huge volumes”: “Not real eos though. Real eos is staked but traders don't hold it.. The exchanges do. They're voting with liquid token holders, and I'm suggesting that any tokens on exchange are liquid and shouldn't be counted even if they're staked through the exchange. It's not a good representation for every other token holder who is actually staking and voting.”
If you follow me, I will also follow you in return!@eosamsterdam, I gave you a vote!