You are viewing a single comment's thread from:

RE: A Quick Secular Proof of Objective Morality

in #ethics8 years ago (edited)

This is reality. Science demonstrates reality. Observe. Test. Open your eyes and investigate the lives of animals. They think. They feel. I didn't say we know WHAT they are thinking or feeling in all cases, nor can we say the same for other humans. We can know that THEY DO think and feel, though.

http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf

https://www.ciwf.org.uk/includes/documents/cm_docs/2009/b/boyle_2009_neuroscience_and_animal_sentience.pdf

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201306/universal-declaration-animal-sentience-no-pretending

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201208/scientists-conclude-nonhuman-animals-are-conscious-beings

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/07/150714-animal-dog-thinking-feelings-brain-science/

animalscryingtears2c9353.jpg
animalstearscryingplantsyupbcc9a.jpg

As for that quote, I was preempting some justifications people use to justify actions based on survival, as I have found some explanations for "Natural Law" that use survival.

And I'm 100%, and more, glad that you are "vegan".

I have spent much time and thinking to understand the depths of moral applications, without using Mises or Rothbard, etc., to tell me how it works. I know it works by how our actions affect others, that it's a concept we created to describe our actions because we can understand concepts, and that's why morality is something that applies to us, and not other animals because they lack this conceptual abstraction sophistication.