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RE: Is It Time For A Spring Clean In The @familyprotection Community?

in #familyprotection7 years ago (edited)

As you know I write from the heart and put all my emotion into my posts.It is an honor and a pleasure to be a part of the community. I would say @markwhittam and @canadian-coconut here is a simple answer. Instead of offering high upvotes for posts - why not just offer an lesser across the board vote and let folks donate when they feel so led. I would think that would solve countless concerns. Then you would not have to ask folks to give back on their payouts. We all want to support @familyprotection as it is a wonderful cause. We need 'unity' and 'freedom' rather than a blacklist. If you look in my wallet you will see that all of my SBD has been hacked and stolen today. You will also see as i am writing this comment, I have zero voting power now on steemnow. i wrote about this as another comment below. Protect yourself. But i do not think that requiring a certain percentage payback is the answer. I hope your day goes better than mine. Blessings. Troy

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Hmmm! In my eyes Big rewards are beneficial to everyone involved, you get more, and because of that @familyprotection gets more money to help the community grow (in theory) it should be a win win situation for everyone.

You talk about unity but where is the unity if certain people are doing the opposite to the rest of the community.

Its not about forcing people to donate, it should come naturally. We don't want it to feel like a tax or a burden, but why should it if we are all benefiting from being on the same page.

I am really sorry you got hacked @enjoywithtroy! And I hope the people who stole your money get a taste of karma!

Thanks Mark.

I understand. However I truly believe that it would make much more sense. instead of having folks donate back - keep that money for family protection. Only pay in the upvote what you TRULY want us writers to have. This is less steps, less confusing to us who are not as literate in steemit. I feel that would be a hundred times more of a win win. I for one would feel more comfortable with this. IE so say you want 25% of the full upvote back. Ok I get it. Then just pay out a 75% rather than 100% . Less bookeeping. I am more willing to participate if that was done. You would not need to write posts on spring clean up and we all would be on the same page like others. Just offer an upvote of what I am worth rather than more. I believe there are some bots that request money to upvote.. I realize you are not a bot but I do not support such bots. A donation yes. I have donated but this makes more logic and sense. As I said my friend just pay out what you are willing to give. I am honored to be part of @familyprotection and cheerful in giving of my creative talents in inspiring the team.

Mark and I do not want to be spending all of our time writing posts for family protection and only upvoting those posts. We want other people to share their own personal experiences and the knowledge that they have gathered on how to fight against the system and win.

Mark and I don't have all the answers but as a community we may be able to find all the answers.
Then when I upvote those information-packed posts, the person who took the time to write them benefits, and if they donate back Family Protection account benefits, AND the readers gain important knowledge.

If nobody donated to the @familyprotection account then the only money that the @familyprotection account makes would be from the posts that the account itself makes, and right now we only make about two posts per month.

Another way we make money is by voting on our own comments but we have recently been flagged for doing that and do not yet know if we will get flagged again.

Ok! I understand it might seem better for you as you might not have a clear picture of how it works.

If we only upvote u 75% we don't get the other 25%

But if we upvote u 100% and u donate back 25% of the sbd half of your reward then both you and @familyprotection benefit!

If we start upvoting everyone less then @familyprotection gets less.

Unless of course we just upvote ourselves all day long and that is not what steemit is all about, upvotes are for rewarding good content.

Please understand that so far you are the only person who has replied to this post who doesn't agree with the way @familyprotection works and thinks the current system of give and take is totally flawed.

I will say that I believe in the cause of @familyprotection. That is evident through the posts I have written. I do not understand the whys of things and thus often challenge thought processes.

I can offer the 25% if it helps. I had thought originally of one 100% donated post a month (you may remember Change for Children), but can do the 25% instead. I believe that it would better profit @familyprotection to court organizations and businesses outside of steemit. i wrote about this in a former post in @familyprotection. By relying only on bloggers 'donation' and not outside alliances @familyprotection will be muzzled and ineffective. I believe that @familyprotection would be 100 times more helpful to those who have suffered with the shared funds from these alliances.

As an update to what I said in an earlier comment, I have been hacked by @good-kama and @gtg.witnesses. They stole 663.843 in SBD (worth about $2,000.00) and 22.641 on Friday morning. My reputation was compromised and my comments were spammed. I have since changed my master key and will be blogging on this SOON. I understand that the SBD was traded on blocktrades and traced to Switzerland, Romania and Amsterdam. My upvote was trashed and will take at least a week to have any value. I have shed tears, anger, depression and feel nausea and raped from this. Though I feel so afraid of Steemit now, I know I must go on with Steemit. I learned the hard way and now try to keep little or nothing in my steem tokens and SBD.

It was mentioned that @familyprotction has been flagged. I am sorry to know of you having that experience. After this spamming I was flagged too! In sincere and gentle kindness, a donation can be viewed by some as a fee in disquise. I hope and pray you do not receive additional flags resulting from that.

Again in closing I do believe in FP cause and I have poured all my energy, tears and inspiration into the posts I wrote. I can gladly contribute the 25%. I just need to be told what I owe as this is all confusing.

Blessings. - Troy

That is AWFUL about being hacked. I am so, so sorry to hear that.
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By relying only on bloggers 'donation' and not outside alliances @familyprotection will be muzzled and ineffective.

I disagree. We have already accomplished a LOT in such a short time. We are already successful.

To reach out to organizations for funds, first of all somebody has to volunteer to talk to them, educate them, and convince them to help.
Secondly, someone would have to take the time to teach them all about the blockchain, set up an exchange and wallet accounts, teach them how to get the funds from their bank into Bitcoin, and then turn Bitcoin into Steem and transfer it over to our familyprotection account or our Bitshares DEX account.

We are keeping everything on the blockchain. The price of cryptos are going to rise substantially in the next couple of years, so our funds will really grow quickly if we receive crypto donations now.

When the time comes to help more people, they will be somebody who already has cryptos figured out, or has a friend who already understands the blockchain and can help them set everything up so that they can convert Steem to their local currency.

Mark and I will not be touching any cash related to the familyprotection account. We will never be a registered charity either. We are not based in any country -- we are blockchain based and worldwide.

This is a small project starting out -- we are two simple bloggers that started it, and a bunch of other bloggers are joining the community. We are WAY ahead of the rest of the world by already being involved in cryptos, and cryptos is great way to raise funds.

I do think though that we could raise funds one more way -- and that is by publishing the addresses of a few different cryptos (ie bitcoin, litecoin, dash, etc) and somehow spread the word around the rest of crypto-space, requesting donations to be sent directly to those wallets. There are a LOT of ordinary good folks who are now very wealthy from having invested early in the cryptos. These folks may like our project and donate, if they could somehow find out about it. On the other hand, the general population seems to have less and less spare cash that they can donate to good causes.

As to telling you what you owe. Since you have been hacked you can't pay for anything from the past anyways. Please don't worry about that. It seems that you only now realized our expectations -- so just start going forward from today.
The next time that you write for familyprotection, after the payout comes through, you could transfer over 25% or more of the SBD that you just received.

Thank-you Troy!

So when I do a 50 steem 50 SBD payout that is 25% of the SBD portion from my understanding @canadian-coconut correct me if I am wrong. I think my last post is coming up soon for payout. Since this hacking, it has put a sour taste in my mouth and need to find the inspiration again to write. I hope to do a few more blogs on the hacking but am not looking forward to it.

Yes. So if you got say 12 SBD as part of your payout, you would transfer perhaps 3 SBD of it to @familyprotection

I'm sure that it feels like a swift kick in the gut to have lost most of your funds. It makes sense that it would take some time to mentally recover from it.

Troy I am so sorry to hear about your account being hacked. I’m not sure how that happens with Steemit but I do know I have never been comfortable with giving anyone my personal keys. Any group that requires my posting key I have not joined because I am not comfortable with it. I hope there is a way where you can retrieve your earnings.

I do like your idea of just offering a lessor vote across the board and allowing people to give as their hearts desire. It is true that you can’t force anyone to give back. This way it will not drain the account as much so that funds will still continue to be built for the main purpose of this cause.

Your comment made me think how in the world could this happen and I did some digging. Apparently you are not the only one that has had this happen to today. And from what I can understand somehow you clicked on a link that brought you to steemwit dot com. And you might have thought it was here and you entered your user name and password. this gave these hackers your information. I am sorry this happened to you and I sure hope you changed your information and will be more careful.